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Manual Transmission Issues >:(

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    I drive an 05 Tc that I got 2 days ago but right off the bat, when test driving it I, I had some trouble shifting the car into 3rd gear. It only happens when the car is over 3000rpms that the transmission makes a griding noise before sliding into gear. The salesman drove it, but it didn't occur so I stupidly assumed that it was my imagination (was already hot to buy the car).

    Brought it into the dealer's shop today and the repairman told me that the car needs a new transmission. Good thing is that he said that the transmission is still under warranty. My real question is that if anyone had any problems similar to this and if Toyota honored the warranty. There is a 60,000 mile powertrain warranty and the car is currently at 41900.
    Sounds like whoever had it before you couldn't drive. Also, if it ground 3rd for you but not the sales person, maybe the driver before you was releasing the clutch too early or not depressing the pedal as much as necessary (not saying you're a bad driver). Those are possibilities just as the person prior to you maybe riding the clutch long in each gear and just wearing the hell out of the throwout bearing/clutch fork and disc.
    ^^^ Wat he said
    Also once you grind the gears a couple times you start to do irreversable damage to the syncros. The syncros assist in engaging the transmision into what gear we select. On older cars you used to have to Double clutch or gear match to shift smoothly. So if yo have to drive it for a bit until it goes into repair, try these methods to reduce the grinding.
    Will probably have to drive the car for a while until I get a virdict back from the repairman whether Toyota wants to honor the warranty or not. This really sucks considering that I just bought this car two days ago.
    Sounds like a syncro problem. Thank God for warranty
    seems like everyone else is too scared to say it but im saying it! you...suck at driving. its grinding because yours pistol gripping it (hold knob from side as with palm facing driver) as opposed to eagle claw (palm facing ground) it might to a certain degree be the synchros like my car but thats can still be fixed with the drivers mod. not saying to granny shift, but if you're more aware of the clutch control and the hand-position, you probably won't have that problem. dont forget, it is winter time to its not going to be as smooth as usual. expect a few more grinds and/or notchiness when shifting.

    i highly doubt its the fault of a previous owner since its still pretty much a brand new car but and being an 05, double clutching shouldnt even be in this conversation.

    bottom line:

    1) dont pistol grip
    2) make sure your slamming the clutch to the floor
    3) if need be, change tranny fluid
    LMAO! Im can assure you I'm not pistol gripping. I've owned 4 cars and all were standards. The first car was the only one of them to have any sort of transmission issues mainly because I tended to ride the clutch being a first manual. Was a rude awaking too because I was stuck on the median of the highway for a few hours before I could get a tow. Bottom line is the car is in the shop and my real concern is if Toyota will honor a warranty because of previous driver abuse.
    fritzdiesel wrote:
    LMAO! Im can assure you I'm not pistol gripping. I've owned 4 cars and all were standards. The first car was the only one of them to have any sort of transmission issues mainly because I tended to ride the clutch being a first manual. Was a rude awaking too because I was stuck on the median of the highway for a few hours before I could get a tow. Bottom line is the car is in the shop and my real concern is if Toyota will honor a warranty because of previous driver abuse.


    if its still under warranty and it was from a previous owner and not you...not that you can prove that to them, but they should honor it anyway. just be assertive with them
    It sounds like to me that the dealer is being a dick! I work at a Toyota dealership and it should definately be covered under warranty especially seeing as though you just bought the car. If the vehicle came into the dealership on trade, then it should have gone through the service department for a safety check. At that time they should have realized there was something wrong with the transmission before they decided to put it on the lot for sale. If I was in your situation, I would go down to the dealer, demand to speak with the general manager, and demand that he either replaces the transmission or you are returning the car and expect a full refund. If he still doesn't want to play ball, then I would threaten to file legal action. There is no way you on your own ruined the transmission in that short of a time. I would be bull shit!!!
    If it's "Toyota Certified" they should honor it without any excuses.
    Ty Guys! My blood pressure definitely has gone a couple of notches after hearing an outside perspective. It sounds like Toyota should honor the warranty, but that remains to be seen. If they do, then I could be walking away with a brand new transmission which would be killer! I REALLY love this car, and I really hope that BS politics doesn't kill the whole "new car high." This is how bad it was. I woke up at 7:30am on Monday, a sick day LOL, and camped outside the dealership until they opened up just incase someone else wanted the car.

    BTW not sure if it is a Toyota Certified Vehicle, but I did buy it from one of the biggest dealers in Jackson,MS. They claim that they did a 120 pt inspection, though I'm not sure what 120 things they inspected. But it sounds like they offered to put their name behind the car to some extent.

    If anyone has any shaddy dealer experiences, I'd really would like to hear them just to be on guard.

    Thanks again
    Wow, it sounds like you really love your car :o You're cool in my book, buddy
    ^^^ Totally agree,you must really luv your ride
    brianc500 wrote:
    Also once you grind the gears a couple times you start to do irreversable damage to the syncros. The syncros assist in engaging the transmision into what gear we select. On older cars you used to have to Double clutch or gear match to shift smoothly. So if yo have to drive it for a bit until it goes into repair, try these methods to reduce the grinding.


    Ok noob question, how do you double clutch? And when down shifting what how would you recommend one do so to make it smooth and also not screw up the clutch, transmission, or put too much strain on the engine?
    alpha_zulu wrote:
    brianc500 wrote:
    Also once you grind the gears a couple times you start to do irreversable damage to the syncros. The syncros assist in engaging the transmision into what gear we select. On older cars you used to have to Double clutch or gear match to shift smoothly. So if yo have to drive it for a bit until it goes into repair, try these methods to reduce the grinding.


    Ok noob question, how do you double clutch? And when down shifting what how would you recommend one do so to make it smooth and also not screw up the clutch, transmission, or put too much strain on the engine?


    double clutching is for older cars. thats when you clutch, put in neutral, release clutch, clutch again, then put into gear. again, only for older cars.

    to down shift, clutch, shift into lower gear, rev match by blipping the throttle, and slowly release clutch to get a smooth catch. one way to mess up tranny is if you drop into too low of a gear...for example:

    scenario 1: if your just coasting at lets say a mere 50mph, and you decided to be driving in top gear to save gas, and you see a traffic light a mile away (obviously exaggerating) and you decided to you engine break, you can probably drop down to 3rd, since even at fourth at that low speed, your rpms will still not be high enough to over rev.

    scenario 2: lets say your merging onto highway from ramp, and no need to floor it, but you want to keep a moderate rpm to keep you in powerband just in case, so lets say your revving at 2,000rpms below redline in 4th (which i think should be like 5 for the tc since the redline in think is 7,100? ) then your slowing down a lil bit to about 4,500, then you realize now you need to gun it, you would then drop to 3rd then floor it. now since you were starting off from a high rpm, you would not be able to drop it down 2 gears since you'll over rev your car.

    and there you have it.

    now remember kids, a good down shift should be heard, not felt.
    Ah Ok cool thanks for the reply. I'll keep that in mind. Good down shift = heard not felt.
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