Ive been offered a good deal on a unichip piggyback unit. the thing is that it is tuned for intake and exhaust, and I am currently running intake, header, exhaust, and pulleys. My question is if it would be bad to install the unichip with its current tune on my set up until i save up for a retune or should I wait, get the retune then install?
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The UniChip isn't necessary for our engines. You may gain a few ponies, but for what your going to spend on it, its really not worth it. The VVT-i works on a learning curve basis. You'd be better off buying a Turbo and having it tuned on a dyno. This also applies to the Decendant and Weapon-R Intake Manifolds, not worth the money to only gain a few ponies. Its your ride, do what you want with it.
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- CadenceScion wrote:
- The UniChip isn't necessary for our engines. You may gain a few ponies, but for what your going to spend on it, its really not worth it. The VVT-i works on a learning curve basis. You'd be better off buying a Turbo and having it tuned on a dyno. This also applies to the Decendant and Weapon-R Intake Manifolds, not worth the money to only gain a few ponies. Its your ride, do what you want with it.
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It all depends. Some tCs react well to them, and others do as stated above...lose power. The downside is that the maps stored on the unichip are static, so they won't adjust to any new environment settings. You'll have to run higher octane that it's tuned for when running the chip as well, so expect to pay a bit more at the pump than you do now. You'll also be running a tune that isn't fully tuned to your settings (it is tuned for I/E and you have I/H/E). It's not that it's going to kill your car to do it, but the unichip can be limited in our application unless you're supercharged. S/C tCs seem to react the best to this tuner. -
- CadenceScion wrote:
- The UniChip isn't necessary for our engines. You may gain a few ponies, but for what your going to spend on it, its really not worth it. The VVT-i works on a learning curve basis. You'd be better off buying a Turbo and having it tuned on a dyno. This also applies to the Decendant and Weapon-R Intake Manifolds, not worth the money to only gain a few ponies. Its your ride, do what you want with it.
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Thanks for the input guys... I'm thinkin that I might just get it, the my guy is giving me a good deal and if anything I'll just flip it... I've Bern plannin in goin this route with my build anyway... And as for fuel that wouldn't b a problem as I am already running on 93 octane anyway
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Check out scionlife... There's a few ppl over there that have this. I think the lowest dyno sheet provided was 10whp and that was on a completely stock tC. The highest was 15whp that I've seen. But be cautioned, not every tC will see those results......
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- Web wrote:
- It all depends. Some tCs react well to them, and others do as stated above...lose power. The downside is that the maps stored on the unichip are static, so they won't adjust to any new environment settings. You'll have to run higher octane that it's tuned for when running the chip as well, so expect to pay a bit more at the pump than you do now. You'll also be running a tune that isn't fully tuned to your settings (it is tuned for I/E and you have I/H/E). It's not that it's going to kill your car to do it, but the unichip can be limited in our application unless you're supercharged. S/C tCs seem to react the best to this tuner.
Thank you Web for clearing up this room. What I said wasn't a laughing matter, but whatever. Some tC's it works on and others it doesn't. If your S/C, then yes buy it. I did my research just like everyone else and made phone calls as well. I'm not going to spend $500-$600 just to gain 10-15HP, I'd rather spend the money on a turbo kit. As I said b4, its comes down to opinion/preference.
If anyone feels that what comes out of my mouth is a joke, then I challenge you to go and talk on Club-tC.com and ask to speak to NavyLife59 and all the other moderators/member on that site, they will tell you what they feel about the UniChip and confirm what I said. -
What web said is true and I understand that as I've been in the car game a while now... But as I stated b4 I'm gettin a very good deal on this chip which would make it very much worth the money to hp ratio... I decided a while back that I didn't want to go down the FI path with this car for a couple of reasons. All that I was wondering was about the tuning set up that is already on it but that doesn't really matter as I would be getting it retuned in a few months time anyway... Thanks again for the reply. I will post another thread soon with the results as this deal I've been offered is too good to pass down
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From the info i gathered from Unichip themselves, (i was doing a bit of product research, cuz i am somewhat interested in this) is that the Intake is more important when you first purchase the chip. I'm guessing they load the static data onto the chip with BRAND SPECIFIC parts in mind. Ie. they have a map for how K&N CAI effects the cars a/f and a separate one for how the Injen CAI will effect a/f? But this is just an educated guess. They told me that the exhaust (header/catback) isn't as important. So i would say that even if it IS that good of a deal, to make sure you have the brand intake the unichip you want to buy is programmed for. Or just buy it and tune it.
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- CadenceScion wrote:
- Web wrote:
- It all depends. Some tCs react well to them, and others do as stated above...lose power. The downside is that the maps stored on the unichip are static, so they won't adjust to any new environment settings. You'll have to run higher octane that it's tuned for when running the chip as well, so expect to pay a bit more at the pump than you do now. You'll also be running a tune that isn't fully tuned to your settings (it is tuned for I/E and you have I/H/E). It's not that it's going to kill your car to do it, but the unichip can be limited in our application unless you're supercharged. S/C tCs seem to react the best to this tuner.
Thank you Web for clearing up this room. What I said wasn't a laughing matter, but whatever. Some tC's it works on and others it doesn't. If your S/C, then yes buy it. I did my research just like everyone else and made phone calls as well. I'm not going to spend $500-$600 just to gain 10-15HP, I'd rather spend the money on a turbo kit. As I said b4, its comes down to opinion/preference.
If anyone feels that what comes out of my mouth is a joke, then I challenge you to go and talk on Club-tC.com and ask to speak to NavyLife59 and all the other moderators/member on that site, they will tell you what they feel about the UniChip and confirm what I said.
what i laughed at is you basically contradicted yourself from a post on another thread. Your on the right track though this time so props to that haha! Anyways....nothing i can say that web hasnt already. What it comes down to is, is the price of the unichip worth the minimal gains your receive? if the answer to you is yes, than do it, however, the gains would not be worth it to me. You also have to remember 15whp on a civic is decent because they weight about 2500 lbs (give or take), on a 3100lbs car, your not going to feel a big difference! -
- CadenceScion wrote:
- If anyone feels that what comes out of my mouth is a joke, then I challenge you to go and talk on Club-tC.com and ask to speak to NavyLife59 and all the other moderators/member on that site, they will tell you what they feel about the UniChip and confirm what I said.
No joke.. I was laughing because in another thread you were arguing that a Header is a worthy investment for the hp/tq it provides... And now you're saying the Unichip isn't worth the investment even though it will add more hp and torque than a header. But more importantly, it will clean up the power curve... -
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- CadenceScion wrote:
- If anyone feels that what comes out of my mouth is a joke, then I challenge you to go and talk on Club-tC.com and ask to speak to NavyLife59 and all the other moderators/member on that site, they will tell you what they feel about the UniChip and confirm what I said.
No joke.. I was laughing because in another thread you were arguing that a Header is a worthy investment for the hp/tq it provides... And now you're saying the Unichip isn't worth the investment even though it will add more hp and torque than a header. But more importantly, it will clean up the power curve...
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Installing the Unichip tuned for I/E on another car on yours won't yield any gains. If anything, it will reduce the power you gained from your bolt ons. You should pick it up if its that good of a price and wait until you have the cash for a tune. Also get all the parts that you want to do first so you can just tune once.
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The only reason why I said to do the header is because I felt a header would give you more ponies over the CAI. I know that you can't compare a I4 to V8, but muscle cars gain more ponies w/ a header than a CAI, that's where I got my info from, whether or not it was correct isn't the issue. I'll own up to my words and I appolgize to the group for any misunderstanding, but to clear the air here, I am not here bash or put anyone down or their ride for that matter.
Secondly, for those that bought the UniChip or have intentions in buying it, I'd like to see actual dyno sheets/results before the chip was installed and after. Let the dyno results speak for itself, on a N/A application and a forced induction. -
This is why I stopped coming to these forums ppl seem to just log on to argue. I would think that it is quite obvious that ems as well as with almost any othe mod would yield higher results in FI rather than an NA set up. I'm getting this ems for the price I was offered and because I made up my mind long ago to go thus path. Not tryin to bash anyone but I think it would b kind of contadictong for someone to recommend buying something for that would give more "ponies" than another mod while they r currently only running this "lesser" mod on their car. I'm not trying to argue with anyone srry if I was brash
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