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06 civic si

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papi33614
  • Detailer
 http://sema.honda.com/2006civic/index.aspx


Yo this new si is bad a$$!!!!! If I knew this was coming out I might have waited for this baby!!! But what do ya think about it???

[#] Aug 19, 2005 12:50am
jph102900
Pittsburgh
Pennsylvania, US
  • Tech Advisor
 Eh, I'm not sure that Civic Si's are worth over 20 grand

[#] Aug 19, 2005 01:11am
papi33614
  • Detailer
 Yeah I'm waitin to see what everyone has to say!!! My old car was a civic but the new ones were just to lame for me. The tc was the best lookin for me at the time and the price was to good to pass up. But this new si is the shiznick!!!!! How is the factory one gonna look like??

[#] Aug 19, 2005 01:12am
Ferocious
  • Tire Changer
 it looks like a smaller version of the 2 door accord to me... im not much of a civic fan, cause people who own them think they drive a ferrari just my opinion

[#] Aug 19, 2005 01:15am
papi33614
  • Detailer
 c'mon here comes the haters!!! LOL!!! :frown:

[#] Aug 19, 2005 01:25am
jph102900
Pittsburgh
Pennsylvania, US
  • Tech Advisor
 I think the car looks great, I just think its a rip off. I'm not a honda hater I just love cars in general. But I just wouldn't be able to make myself spend that much money on a CIVIC when I could get a tC ( not because they are necessarily better but because everyone and there mom doesn't have one) or an RSX or an SRT-4. Just not a smart use of money IMO.

[#] Aug 19, 2005 01:32am
HwaRang84
  • Tech Advisor
 I read in an article that all the pictures of the new SI are for show only. Factory produced SIs will not have the black hood, body accents. May come with smaller wheels.

[#] Aug 19, 2005 02:43am
LambdaJoker
  • Oil Changer
 140 hp and 128 torque. looks nice, but i doubt thats the way it will look when it comes out.

[#] Aug 19, 2005 12:09pm
scionic
Troy
Michigan, US
  • Tire Changer
 I think Honda is trying to base it off of the tC. None of the past si's have had such a low profile hatch like that one. You can't really tell that it even is a hatcback. Very similar to the tC.

[#] Aug 19, 2005 01:05pm
Vicious
Orlando
Florida, US
  • El Chupacabra
 from the side it looks very similar to the tC, but i doubt it'll end up looking that way.. I remember seeing a concept drawing for the tC on SL i think.. it looked really futuristic/modern, much like the SI concept.. i'm sure the new SI will be a severly watered down version of the concept in those pics I hear it comes with the type-s engine though

[#] Aug 19, 2005 02:25pm
PLATINUMEX
  • Tech Advisor
jph102900 wrote:
Eh, I'm not sure that Civic Si's are worth over 20 grand

Don't the features determine what it is worth, not the model name? This isn't any Civic Si you or anyone else has ever checked out, seen in person, driven, etc. It dumb as hell how people stereotype Civics, even new models that aren't even out yet. LAME, IMO. Who cares what a few dumbasses will do to a car - No doubt there are already tCs with big aluminum wings on the road today, with more to come. BTW, the new Si will have 200hp - how much would the tC with SC installed cost?? Hmmm....
LambdaJoker wrote:
140 hp and 128 torque. looks nice, but i doubt thats the way it will look when it comes out.

Those numbers are NOT for the Si - it says right under that. Actually, the production Si looks nearly IDENTICAL to that, minus the black hood, yellow fogs, and center exit exhaust.
Vicious wrote:
from the side it looks very similar to the tC, but i doubt it'll end up looking that way.. I remember seeing a concept drawing for the tC on SL i think.. it looked really futuristic/modern, much like the SI concept.. i'm sure the new SI will be a severly watered down version of the concept in those pics I hear it comes with the type-s engine though

It will look nearly identical and have 200hp w/6 speed manual. Not watered down, IMO. Reports have even said it will keep the 18s and possibly the Brembos.

[#] Aug 19, 2005 02:37pm
SWScion06
  • Window Washer
 ...

[#] Aug 19, 2005 03:56pm
PLATINUMEX
  • Tech Advisor
 That sucks. No BIG differences though, right? No black hood, no center exit exhaust, no yellow fogs, no tint on headlights/taillights, normal door handles, the spoiler is very similar but not middle pedestals... What else?

[#] Aug 19, 2005 04:11pm
TRD_tC
  • Scion Guru
 Lol, whats with all the butt-hurt feelings? Facts and figures.... the civic is another competitor to the tC... wether its better or not, we'll have to wait for test drives and for the car to actually come to the market before we can compare... Alot of people thought the tC was gonna be this quick little machine with a few boltons take on the srt4 and wrx etc. etc...wrong... but that doesn't mean our car sucks....

In the car world, manf. always try to one-up each0ther, so big ups to honda for trying to outdo us...proves that toyota, with their tC, one-upped them against their previous SI....

that only means that our tC will be upgraded to compete against the competition again... geez...

Think about it, if all manf. were content with what they had... no one would upgrade their cars...and our tc, would still be a celica/supra. 84 stylez.

[#] Aug 19, 2005 05:34pm
PLATINUMEX
  • Tech Advisor
 Whose feelings are hurt? I wasn't saying the Si will necessarily be better - just putting some accurate info out there. Dollar for dollar I like the value of my tC and think it will respond better to mods than the '06 Si. I think the Si will be damn sweet, but so will my tC once I've put a little money into it. Either way, I'm happy with what I have but props to Honda for trying to get it right this time.

[#] Aug 19, 2005 06:30pm
SilverRSXJezus
  • Chief Mechanic
 I never really got why people hated the civic so much.

Is it the fact that because everybody wanted one for its great reliability, value holding, practical cars and actually somewhat decent looking? People hate it now because it's so common, but you wonder how it actually got so common....

Anyways, no doubt it'll cost more than the tC, but it doesn't mean it is a worse or better car. It's higher priced, but it'll have more power and we do'nt really know about the other details yet.

And actually, if the civic si really is getting a k20A/A2/Z1 motor, then it will probably respond better to mods than the tC, at least....N/A wise.

[#] Aug 19, 2005 07:34pm
LambdaJoker
  • Oil Changer
PLATINUMEX wrote:
BTW, the new Si will have 200hp - how much would the tC with SC installed cost?? Hmmm....


please explain, which supercharger? cause trd hasnt came out with it yet and doesnt look like they will anytime soon. hmmm...

[#] Aug 22, 2005 02:54am
Bukwheat
  • Window Washer
LambdaJoker wrote:
please explain, which supercharger? cause trd hasnt came out with it yet and doesnt look like they will anytime soon. hmmm...


Don't worry...if Toyota or TRD does not release the supercharger by the end of this year, it WILL once the SI hits showrooms.

I like the look of the new Civic coupes. The EX and SI will both share the same body. I think the way the headlights flow into the front air damn is sweet! However, deciding to buy a tC or Civic coupe is all relative...some prefer a clean and conservative look, while others, an edgier and contemporary look. I believe that's why they're in the same class...to compete with one another. You can't go wrong with either one.

[#] Aug 25, 2005 12:46am
terra_tC
  • Detailer
 I really dont like the looks of the car. The lines are just horrible imo. The a-pillar blends right into the hood and makes it look like the previous si.
If i had the money and the chioce between tC and Civic... tC.
I've seen the 06 ex in person...its pretty much the same.

[#] Oct 01, 2005 01:44pm
way2sxxy4u
Hayward
California, US
  • Chief Mechanic
 i drove a pre-production model si today at the civic live event at monster park in sf. first impression of the looks is pretty bleh. still like the tc more. the tc looks bigger and the overall is +++. the si feels like a toy car/go cart. it accelerates like CRAZY. it's extremely rev happy as expected with the k20. i don't really like the dash. kinda cheap. and i don't like the two tier dash cuz u can either look at the speedo or down at the tach, not both cuz they're so far apart. it handled sharply but the brakes were ultra sensitive (GRABBY). i got interviewed after my second drive which was kinda kool and i talked to one of the spokespersons about pricing n they said base is at 21,500 so thats WAY up there compared to a stock tc. the si was a fun ride BUT i'm still for the tc. the only i like on the si is the fun factor. features and amentities go to the tc as well as trim appearance

[#] Oct 23, 2005 03:09am
PLATINUMEX
  • Tech Advisor
LambdaJoker wrote:
PLATINUMEX wrote:
BTW, the new Si will have 200hp - how much would the tC with SC installed cost?? Hmmm....


please explain, which supercharger? cause trd hasnt came out with it yet and doesnt look like they will anytime soon. hmmm...


The one I just looked at the dyno for. Hmmm...

[#] Oct 23, 2005 09:31am
scrap
  • Chief Mechanic
 Now the supercharger is out, the TC is going to crap on this all day!!

[#] Oct 23, 2005 11:25am
metalranger33
  • Tech Advisor
 omg...the tc has the S/c now great, but im sorry the SI owns the tc all day...inter. ext. and stock performance....car and driver rated 5 cars....reline, cobalt Ss, srt-4, Wrx, RSx-s....i wonder who won...Rsx-s and why? because honda knows what they are doing..its not always about performance its about every aspect of a car.

[#] Oct 25, 2005 09:47am
Scion-tist
Silver Spring
Maryland, US
  • Chief Mechanic
 Umm.. I think I have room to speak, considering I am the 2nd one in the US to have the s/c insalled. The s/c on a stock tC, dynoed at 192whp and 172wtq. This is about 225hp at the crank. I don't know what the ctorque would be. The new si is rated at 197hp (205 going by the old rating system) and 139 ft/lbs.

Lets look at this by the numbers.

s/c tC
225hp/180ish ft/lbs
$20,000

06 si
197hp/139 ft/lbs
LSD
6-speed
>$20,000

LSD means nothing without torque. the spoiler on the si is hideous, the car itself looks like a new accord with downs syndrome. Its just about as heavy as the tC and will cost a bit more than a s/c tC. tC IMO looks a lot better.

the s/c tC pulls very hard on the top end. It feels really good.

[#] Oct 25, 2005 10:01am
atodak
New Hampshire, US
  • Scion Guru
 ^True

[#] Oct 25, 2005 10:10am
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