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rohbocop
Dallas
Texas, US
  • Tire Changer
 i'm tryna replace both the brake pads and rotors on my car.

1) what's a good quality brake pad?

2) i wanna get one of those sport/racing type rotors so i can brake better. what's a good name brand for rotors?

thanks guys!
[#] Sep 18, 2008 02:57pm
krdshrk
New Brunswick
New Jersey, US
  • Godlike Advisor
 Go pick up the Stoptech Stage II upgrade kit. That's what I have


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[#] Sep 18, 2008 03:02pm
falkore24
New Jersey, US
  • Vehicle Designer
 EBC slotted and dimpled rotors with Redstuff or Hawk HPS pads

[#] Sep 18, 2008 03:03pm
donping
New Haven
Connecticut, US
  • Tire Changer
falkore24 wrote:
EBC slotted and dimpled rotors with Redstuff or Hawk HPS pads


I have those EBC rotors and they are great!!

[#] Sep 21, 2008 09:16pm
SoFloTC
Boca Raton
Florida, US
  • Godlike Advisor
 honestly i have stoptech rotors and hawk hps brake pads and i still think my brakes suck.. go get a BBK

[#] Sep 21, 2008 09:57pm
07BsptC
Lake Charles
Louisiana, US
  • Master Mechanic
 bbk is great for track and stuff so im sure its good for street lol, go bbk

-PitchBlackTc07
[#] Sep 21, 2008 10:00pm
krdshrk
New Brunswick
New Jersey, US
  • Godlike Advisor
 Don't go BBK. If you think your brakes feel crappy, try re-bleeding the lines. My brakes feel fkn awesome.

BBK's are useless unless you're doing primarily track racing. A lot of your braking is in the tires.


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[#] Sep 21, 2008 10:41pm
rohbocop
Dallas
Texas, US
  • Tire Changer
krdshrk wrote:
Don't go BBK. If you think your brakes feel crappy, try re-bleeding the lines. My brakes feel fkn awesome.

BBK's are useless unless you're doing primarily track racing. A lot of your braking is in the tires.


if i do order a stage 2 kit,
is it hard to a DYI?
and what's the difference between slotted and drilled?

[#] Sep 22, 2008 06:10pm
falkore24
New Jersey, US
  • Vehicle Designer
rohbocop wrote:
krdshrk wrote:
Don't go BBK. If you think your brakes feel crappy, try re-bleeding the lines. My brakes feel fkn awesome.

BBK's are useless unless you're doing primarily track racing. A lot of your braking is in the tires.


if i do order a stage 2 kit,
is it hard to a DYI?
and what's the difference between slotted and drilled?



I'm with Nick on the BBK. If you can lock up the wheels and have anti-lock kick in, BBK won't make more braking force, just less pedal travel. Better grip in the tires is key. When you have enough grip, you might not be able to lock up the wheels ..... this is where the BBK works.

Drilled rotors have holes in them. The holes were originally to relieve gases released by the brake pads a while ago. New pads don't make that gas cushion. Brembo blanks are also less prone to warpage due to the holes being cast into the metal prior to finish machining. The holes allow the rotors to cool faster because inertia forces the air out of the vents in the edge of the rotor causing fresh air to be sucked into the holes.

Slotted rotors have slots machined into the braking surface. The slots scrape the surface of the pads to reduce glazing and get a better bite when braking. Slots will show better performance than drilled at the cost of some noise.

[#] Sep 22, 2008 06:53pm
Web
Maryland, US
  • THE SHADOW
 EBC dimpled/slotted rotors with EBC redstuff pads here

almost 100% highway driving as well so keep that in mind with the temperature ranges you see/need for pads.

If you do more city driving, a ceramic or high temperature pad will make your brakes SQUEAL. A softer pad is better for city driving and maybe a carbon metallic pad is what you should look into. Denser pads (higher heat ranges and denser, more resilient materials) will last a bit longer, can withstand faster/harder braking, and withstand fading much better.


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[#] Sep 22, 2008 08:04pm
rohbocop
Dallas
Texas, US
  • Tire Changer
 i dont do much racing.
alot of city driving and occasionally like to get a little speed going, but nothing serious.
my brakes somehow became very bad after i let my friend drive my car for a day.....(stupid i know)
i went to go get it checked up and the guy said nothing was wrong with it, but i can feel the difference.
i have to push the brake ALL the way down to get a complete stop.
i figured changing everything from the rotors to the brake pads would fix the problem.

[#] Sep 22, 2008 11:16pm
falkore24
New Jersey, US
  • Vehicle Designer
 I think you probably just need to bleed them, but for city driving, I'd go with Greenstuff pads or Brembo, although the Brembos dust a lot. Hawk HPS is a touch softer than Redstuff, so I thnk they'd be good too. I haven't had nor seen any problems with Redstuff or HPS pads.

[#] Sep 23, 2008 10:09am
Web
Maryland, US
  • THE SHADOW
 Redstuff have been great for me but I do opposite driving from what the OP does.

Greenstuff brakes are ok but stick with a blank rotor if you use them. They really "sing" if you have slotted/drilled rotors. I had them on with slotted/drilled rotors for about 8 months then said F that and upgraded to my current set. I would sacrifice wheel aesthetics and get a flat rotor with a softer pad that won't squeal as much, but may produce a bit of dust. Axxis pads have been spoken about as well as Hawk pads. Try to stick to their "street" pads rather than race quality pads.


DOT 4 fluid and/or steel brake lines will help the spongy pedal feel. As stated, you should flush/bleed them.


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[#] Sep 23, 2008 11:58am
krdshrk
New Brunswick
New Jersey, US
  • Godlike Advisor
 I say go with the Axxis Ultimates. They ARE a ceramic pad and will tend to squeal some (mine were but stopped), but they have exceptional bite... though - I do race more than most.


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[#] Sep 23, 2008 02:05pm
Blitzin
Douglasville
Georgia, US
  • Detailer
 I am not a big fan of Axxis Ultimates - mine have dusted like crazy since day one and, I am not racing, just daily driving... I am going to the "red stuff" as soon as the Axxis are gone.

Just my 2 cents worth...

[#] Sep 23, 2008 02:17pm
krdshrk
New Brunswick
New Jersey, US
  • Godlike Advisor
 That's true. My ultimates kick out a lot of dust. Axxis Deluxe Plus are oem low-dust replacements. I like the added bite of the ultimates, personally.


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[#] Sep 23, 2008 02:29pm
Blitzin
Douglasville
Georgia, US
  • Detailer
 agreed on the bite - I like that a lot! But I am so over the dust and what it does to my wheels - not to mention my manicure! <hey - I gotta be a girl sometimes! >

[#] Sep 23, 2008 03:32pm
falkore24
New Jersey, US
  • Vehicle Designer
 Hawk HPS are very comparable to Ultimates and don't dust much. Red's are a bit harder.

[#] Sep 23, 2008 03:47pm
rohbocop
Dallas
Texas, US
  • Tire Changer
 alright...sorry guys im new to all this so i need y'alls advice.
i just want to be able to brake really well,
without any noise or dust.
what do you guys suggest?

[#] Sep 23, 2008 04:35pm
falkore24
New Jersey, US
  • Vehicle Designer
 Brembo blanks if you need rotors and Hawk HPS pads.

[#] Sep 23, 2008 06:45pm
krdshrk
New Brunswick
New Jersey, US
  • Godlike Advisor
rohbocop wrote:
alright...sorry guys im new to all this so i need y'alls advice.
i just want to be able to brake really well,
without any noise or dust.
what do you guys suggest?


Re-bleed the lines first.


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2006 GReddy Turbocharged Automatic tC
220+ WHP - 14.044 @ 97.02 MPH
[#] Sep 23, 2008 07:10pm
Web
Maryland, US
  • THE SHADOW
rohbocop wrote:
without any noise or dust.
what do you guys suggest?


You either have 1 of these or both....there's NO pad/rotor combo that will give you NO noise and NO dust.


Complaining is futile when you supported the victory.
http://clubsciontc.com/fo...-rims--5x100-pattern.html
[#] Sep 23, 2008 07:55pm
rohbocop
Dallas
Texas, US
  • Tire Changer
 okay i gotcha guys.
i appreciate the feedback and advice.
i think imma just go with the brembo OEM's and re-bleed the lines since i dont really do much racing.
any particular brake fluid that i should look into?

[#] Sep 23, 2008 08:40pm
krdshrk
New Brunswick
New Jersey, US
  • Godlike Advisor
 Motul RBF600 DOT4 Fluid.


Scikotics NJ is sponsored by Lawrence Scion

2006 GReddy Turbocharged Automatic tC
220+ WHP - 14.044 @ 97.02 MPH
[#] Sep 23, 2008 09:00pm
rohbocop
Dallas
Texas, US
  • Tire Changer
 i was lookin up brembo blank rotors,
and the only have "front" ones available.
i was just wondering if the front and rear rotors are the same dimensions? (so can i just buy 4 "front" rotors?)

[#] Sep 25, 2008 03:20am
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