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zima011yu Hunt Valley Maryland, US Window Washer	Here is the quick picture... I have Fujita cold intake that took a big gulp of water from a deep puddle of water. Of course, engine stalled. What is the diagnosis in your opinion? Is it the engine head? If so, how much they go for? What is the best case scenario, worst case scenario, and the most likely to be replaced? Any comment, idea, suggestion greatly appreciated. Thank you! Zima A car is good reflection of its owner’s personality.
[#] Jul 23, 2008 11:28pm
Blckdouttc Trumbull Connecticut, US Master Mechanic	manifold, throttle body i would think. that ruins the whole engine in most cases, how deep was the puddle and how long were u underwater for? 2006 BSP tC
[#] Jul 23, 2008 11:33pm
Web Maryland, US THE SHADOW	Best case: You got enough water in the cylinders to prevent a few firing attempts and after trying to start it about 3-5 times it slowly fires and turns over. Worst case: Hydrolock and you need to have the cylinder head evacuated of all water and dried. Then, ignition system needs to be tested to see if a spark can be produced. Yeah, you're looking at a hefty bill with this one. Complaining is futile when you supported the victory.
[#] Jul 23, 2008 11:33pm
Kurisutaira Godlike Advisor	you have to becareful coz the filter is right behind the vent on the lower valice of the front bumper where people normally put VRD fogs so it sits real low. i get the same problem if im driveing in the rain i get a check engine light and i just park it for a day and im all good again. "This is what happens when an unstoppable force meets an unmovable object"
[#] Jul 23, 2008 11:35pm
BlazednSleepy Chatsworth California, US Chief Mechanic	i would get an injen hydro shield to be on the safe side. ive heard people test it under a running faucet and there hands were perfectly dry. i got one and have no problems in the rain.
[#] Jul 23, 2008 11:37pm
zima011yu Hunt Valley Maryland, US Window Washer	Thank you guys! Just to explain my case little bit better I drove for whole 30ft, believe it or not doing a whole 5mph. Then the engine simply died. The puddle was about ankle deep... but I did not know that it would affect it so quickly. And yes, I will definitely invest in some hydro shield protection for the filter. I will give it some time to dry off, then I will try to start the engine again. I tried once already, and it sounded like it wanted to start making a little noise, however it was unsuccessful of course. I guess for now keep your fingers crossed for me. Thanks again! Zima A car is good reflection of its owner’s personality.
[#] Jul 23, 2008 11:55pm
Web Maryland, US THE SHADOW	yeah, let it sit for a day or so to evaporate a good bit of the moisture out of the intake pipe, MAF sensor, and throttle body. Once that is done, the A/F mixture will be enough to evaporate the moisture left in the cylinder (if minimal) during the combustion process. Complaining is futile when you supported the victory.
[#] Jul 23, 2008 11:59pm
ssm_251 Mobile Alabama, US Detailer	I had probably the best case scenario happen to me. I was driving to class in the rain one day and pulled in to the store to buy an umbrella. I was unaware that the parking lot had about 7-8 inches of water. my car stalled out and wouldn't crank. i came back later and removed my spark plugs and left the holes open. i turned the key on and water shot out of the engine like old faaithful. eventually i got most of the water out and only had to replace the plugs and change the oil twice to get all the water out. i was very lucky
[#] Jul 23, 2008 11:59pm
Kurisutaira Godlike Advisor	umm its not good to leave them exposed like that. considering thats were the spark plugs so wuld only worsen the situation if dirt was to get down in there "This is what happens when an unstoppable force meets an unmovable object"
[#] Jul 24, 2008 12:01am
ssm_251 Mobile Alabama, US Detailer	well i had to get the water out somehow otherwise it wouldn't crank it was only for like ten minutes to get most of the water out. I haven't had any problems since then and thats been like over a year ago
[#] Jul 24, 2008 12:09am
krdshrk New Brunswick New Jersey, US Godlike Advisor	Yes - pull the spark plugs (and the coil packs off) and crank the engine. Scikotics NJ is sponsored by Lawrence Scion 2006 GReddy Turbocharged Automatic tC 220+ WHP - 14.044 @ 97.02 MPH
[#] Jul 24, 2008 12:17am
JRod_TC Burke Virginia, US Scion Guru	Time to come over to the SRI side
[#] Jul 24, 2008 01:09am
andino Manhattan Beach California, US Godlike Advisor	I don't think you hydrolocked but I could be wrong. I mean, you'd have to drive through a 2ft deep puddle to hydrolock if I'm not mistaken. Just let your car dry out for a day and see what happens. Are you in SoCal? Come to our CStC meets! Located in Socal? Need something Installed? Have a question and no one is willing to help? Shoot me a PM or hit me up on AIM.
[#] Jul 24, 2008 01:51am
Dr_Isotope Highland California, US Chief Mechanic	Three tablespoons of water can push a rod out the side of the block. You don't have to drive into a lake, or have water up to the doorhandles. As I've said many times, you only need two things to hydrolock a motor: 1. Water. 2. Bad luck. That's all there is to it. You might drive for 10 years with a CAI and never have a single problem. Or a truck going the other direction can splash a wall of water at you during a rainstorm and you can shoot a chunk of rod into the oil pan. Pay to play, kids. Custom parts for your Scion tC: Doctor Isotope dot Com
[#] Jul 24, 2008 03:43am
krdshrk New Brunswick New Jersey, US Godlike Advisor	Water Shield and AEM Bypass Valve can save you... heh. Scikotics NJ is sponsored by Lawrence Scion 2006 GReddy Turbocharged Automatic tC 220+ WHP - 14.044 @ 97.02 MPH
[#] Jul 24, 2008 10:21am
Aviator213 Hagerstown Maryland, US Scion Guru	andino wrote: I don't think you hydrolocked but I could be wrong. I mean, you'd have to drive through a 2ft deep puddle to hydrolock if I'm not mistaken. Just let your car dry out for a day and see what happens. my friend has an integra that he drove through about 4-5 inches of water and it was enough to suck the water up, push water into the cylinder and push the rod through the block. Needless to say we had quite a replacement job to do
[#] Jul 24, 2008 10:32am
zima011yu Hunt Valley Maryland, US Window Washer	Thanks for all the comments and advice! I removed spark plugs, disconnected the intake, and I propped the throttle body butterfly just to let the water evaporate as much as possible. ( I hope that wasn't too stupid.) I let it sit like that on the Sun for good 10hr and then I tried to start the engine. The good news is that engine tried to crank and almost started. I removed the plugs again (which were still wet) and I let it sit some more. I did not know that I could try to start the engine with no spark plugs!!! Maybe I will try to do that. Do you guys think I should use some dry gas at all??? Bad idea??? I appreciate the comments... Zima A car is good reflection of its owner’s personality.
[#] Jul 24, 2008 11:07pm
Crash Clovis New Mexico, US Godlike Advisor	Im not sure that thats the best idea right now. If its getting a little better, keep trying what you are doing would be my suggestion. Then again, I dont know anything about water in engines, so I could be completely off. I wouldnt put any more liquid in it though, especially when its already flooded. The SEARCH feature on the site works, I promise. USE IT!!! "I almost numchucked you, you dont even reallise!!" -Will Ferrell-
[#] Jul 24, 2008 11:10pm
Web Maryland, US THE SHADOW	Just let it evaporate on its own. Complaining is futile when you supported the victory.
[#] Jul 24, 2008 11:18pm
ssm_251 Mobile Alabama, US Detailer	turn the key while the spark plugs are out to push out alot of the water, then put the plugs back in. I had to play with it for a little bit but eventually it cranked. just be sure to have ur oil changed asap.
[#] Jul 25, 2008 11:14pm
zima011yu Hunt Valley Maryland, US Window Washer	Good news folks!!! My engine works again!!! Thank you again for all of your help and suggestions. Zima A car is good reflection of its owner’s personality.
[#] Jul 26, 2008 05:37pm
Crash Clovis New Mexico, US Godlike Advisor	So, what all did you do man? The SEARCH feature on the site works, I promise. USE IT!!! "I almost numchucked you, you dont even reallise!!" -Will Ferrell-
[#] Jul 26, 2008 05:40pm
ScionUnderground Bellflower California, US Detailer	krdshrk wrote: Water Shield and AEM Bypass Valve can save you... heh. True, but by then, you've decreased the intake's performance so much that you paid $200 for 1 hp lol. The Internet's FIRST Scion Performance Podcast! Download and Subscribe for free today on iTunes! You can also download it directly from the RSS Feed! Scion Underground is sponsored by PrestigeRacing.net, the BEST place for Scion Performance Parts!
[#] Jul 26, 2008 11:10pm
Crash Clovis New Mexico, US Godlike Advisor	Exactly the reason Im going with SRI The SEARCH feature on the site works, I promise. USE IT!!! "I almost numchucked you, you dont even reallise!!" -Will Ferrell-
[#] Jul 26, 2008 11:12pm
ScionUnderground Bellflower California, US Detailer	CrashUSAF wrote: Exactly the reason Im going with SRI To be honest with you, I wouldn't even bother with an aftermarket intake. The amount of gains period don't justify the cost. There are a lot of other mods that will give you a better bang for your buck. Mainly suspension parts. The Internet's FIRST Scion Performance Podcast! Download and Subscribe for free today on iTunes! You can also download it directly from the RSS Feed! Scion Underground is sponsored by PrestigeRacing.net, the BEST place for Scion Performance Parts!
[#] Jul 27, 2008 12:58am

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