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Anyone Running Nitrogen In Their Tires
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So i was at actiongator tire getting my alignment checked and the guy in the shop was trying to convince me to run nitrogen which they sell for 10 bucks a tire...so i just wanted a heads up if anyone was using it and if it really makes a difference.
[#] Jun 18, 2008 11:23pm slickshot
- Scion Guru
i got my tires full with them havent noticed too much of a diff but i recommend ya get em..check this out: LiNk
[#] Jun 18, 2008 11:30pm Dr_Isotope
- Chief Mechanic
Everything Wheelmax lists is true-- though for the average driver, the sole largest advantage is slower migration-- meaning it leaks out more slowly than regular atmospheric air pumped in the tires. I go around 6 months between nitrogen fills on my tires.
The big advantages of nitrogen come in racing (more consitent pressure changes due to temperature, more predictable tire growth, no moisture in the tires to boil, etc), and won't really be noticed in street driving. But there's no real disadvantages to nitrogen tire fill, aside from perhaps the initial cost.
Custom parts for your Scion tC: Doctor Isotope dot Com[#] Jun 19, 2008 12:52am armygirl718
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my sister runs nitrogen in her tires on a saturn and i think her car feels better w/ it than with regular air
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http://www.myspace.com/navsegdamaskva[#] Jun 19, 2008 07:40am Web
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- Dr_Isotope wrote:
- Everything Wheelmax lists is true-- though for the average driver, the sole largest advantage is slower migration-- meaning it leaks out more slowly than regular atmospheric air pumped in the tires. I go around 6 months between nitrogen fills on my tires.
The big advantages of nitrogen come in racing (more consitent pressure changes due to temperature, more predictable tire growth, no moisture in the tires to boil, etc), and won't really be noticed in street driving. But there's no real disadvantages to nitrogen tire fill, aside from perhaps the initial cost.
Agree. I had Nitrogen in my tires for about 6 months and filled my winter tires with it for storage for this summer. It's been about 2 months for my winter tires and they are still all sitting at 40 psi. Overall, I didn't notice much of anything different about the ride of my car but the leaking less air portion is nice
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http://clubsciontc.com/fo...-rims--5x100-pattern.html[#] Jun 19, 2008 08:03am krdshrk
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I pick up too much road debris in my tires for me to justify paying for Nitrogen. That plus I tend to adjust my tire pressures a lot.. There's a reason why I carry an air pump in my car..
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220+ WHP - 14.044 @ 97.02 MPH[#] Jun 19, 2008 10:33am Orin
The last user I spoke to that had Nitrogen in their tires was 
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[#] Jun 19, 2008 10:34am cchhpp
- Window Washer
I'm using Nitrogen in my tires, but they charged me $20 a tire haha
[#] Jun 19, 2008 10:54am Noicsct
- Master Mechanic
i used to use nitorgen in my old car and did feel a bit smoother and i did notice a bit more gas milage.......
[#] Jun 19, 2008 10:58am krdshrk
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Nitrogen is lighter than air (a little) and will actually reduce the weight of the wheel/tire combo (unsprung weight) so yes - it can produce better gas mileage. Less weight for the engine to turn.
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220+ WHP - 14.044 @ 97.02 MPH[#] Jun 19, 2008 11:01am Beckaz_tC
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I've been wondering about doing this. After you use the nitrogen the 1st time you have to use it to refill every time right? No more air allowed?
[#] Jun 19, 2008 11:19am krdshrk
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You can mix but it's better if you refill with nitrogen.
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220+ WHP - 14.044 @ 97.02 MPH[#] Jun 19, 2008 11:26am Dr_Isotope
- Chief Mechanic
To have any benefit, the tires have to be purged and cycled-- all atmospheric air and moisture removed from the tire by filling/dumping the tire several times, then bringing the tire up to working pressure with nitrogen. Any air present in the tire will negate the nitrogen's positive effects.
Custom parts for your Scion tC: Doctor Isotope dot Com[#] Jun 19, 2008 12:17pm falkore24
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hmmm .... has anyone tried helium??? I used dried air from my buddy's scuba tanks .... free FTW!!! Also, it's better than normal air because it's dried after it's pressurized to 3000 psi.
[#] Jun 19, 2008 04:22pm Mayo
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- krdshrk wrote:
- Nitrogen is lighter than air (a little) and will actually reduce the weight of the wheel/tire combo (unsprung weight) so yes - it can produce better gas mileage. Less weight for the engine to turn.
Hmm. Nitrogen is actually heavier than air. In its elemantal form, it is N2, which has a molar mass of 14g/mol.
And air itself is about 75% nitrogen already. ~20% is oxygen, which is 16g/mol in its elemental form. The average of just these two gases would make air heavier than just nitrogen.
But anyone know why N2 would diffuse slower out of a tire? Im not sure I understand why.
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-- Want to post a "For Sale" thread? Check out the rules first.[#] Jun 19, 2008 07:47pm Dr_Isotope
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In simplest terms, nitrogen is bigger than oxygen. So oxygen migrates through the rubber more quickly than the nitrogen. That's all there is to it.
Custom parts for your Scion tC: Doctor Isotope dot Com[#] Jun 19, 2008 08:00pm Web
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- Dr_Isotope wrote:
- In simplest terms, nitrogen is bigger than oxygen. So oxygen migrates through the rubber more quickly than the nitrogen. That's all there is to it.
That's the only part of nitrogen filling I follow. The rest is just a selling gimic.
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http://clubsciontc.com/fo...-rims--5x100-pattern.html[#] Jun 19, 2008 08:42pm Triniosito
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Ok good stuff,when i get my Nitto Invo's mounted i will be sure to fill em up it nitrogen
[#] Jun 20, 2008 11:50pm Mayo
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- Dr_Isotope wrote:
- In simplest terms, nitrogen is bigger than oxygen. So oxygen migrates through the rubber more quickly than the nitrogen. That's all there is to it.
I never realized that the 0.04 Angstrom difference in the radii would make such a difference in the migration out of the tire.
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-- Want to post a "For Sale" thread? Check out the rules first.[#] Jun 21, 2008 03:26pm andino
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I'm running N2 in my tires as well . I didn't feel much of a difference but I didn't have to pay anything to have them filled since Costco uses N2 anyways
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