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struts/shocks?
elgatogrande
- Window Washer
So I got my H Techs and decided to get shocks/struts beforehand so I can keep my OEM parts for future use if the need arises. In my searching Ive discovered only 3 aftermarket setups. TRD, Koni, and Tokico. Is this true? Im sure many people have experience with TRD and already have opinions on them. Can anyone help with their experience with Koni or Tokico? Or perhaps have some input on other options I may have overlooked besides goin with coilovers.
[#] Jun 10, 2008 07:04pm andino
- Godlike Advisor
TRD - good setup for an alright price. "plug and play" install and complement the TRD springs or similar springs well.
Koni Yellows - Require modifications for the front to fit. Don't recommend unless you're going to track your car and want to be able to control the dampening.
Tokico Blues - Great setup at a great price. I highly recommend these as they are great struts that don't break the bank. Also "plug and play" so no modifications are needed.
Summary:
1. Tokico Blues
2. TRD Sport Dampeners
3. Koni Yellows (modifications required)
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Have a question and no one is willing to help? Shoot me a PM or hit me up on AIM.[#] Jun 10, 2008 08:12pm SoCalCory
- Chief Mechanic
What bout prices for each andy?
[#] Jun 10, 2008 08:59pm elgatogrande
- Window Washer
Well I told you in your other spring thread that I get the Htechs for $175 shipped.
SL has a sponsered sale for the TRD shocks/struts for $465 shipped
SL also has a sponsered sale for the tokicos for $399 shipped.
Koni I havent looked into but have seen them for around $625?
Earlier today I was leaning toward the TRDs, but there have been a couple of new threads just today about their apparent failure. I think the Tokicos are relatively new to our market so there might not be any long term experience, and I believe they will be a little stiffer than the TRDs, but thats the way Im leaning now.
[#] Jun 10, 2008 09:06pm andino
- Godlike Advisor
Tokico's are great struts. I know people running them on their cars and the ride is great. Stiffer struts will agree with the Htechs more as they are still springs.
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Have a question and no one is willing to help? Shoot me a PM or hit me up on AIM.[#] Jun 10, 2008 09:18pm CivicEater
- Detailer
had tokico's and an eicbach pro kit on my civic and the ride was amazing if they are as good as they were on my civic. Get Them
[#] Jun 11, 2008 03:25am justDstart3
- Vehicle Designer
Tokico Blues is what im gonna go for.. once i get my bonus.. haha..
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- Godlike Advisor
So let me get this straight. The Tokico blues are shocks/struts. All you would need after that is the springs. So instead of buying a 900-1000 dollar coilover set, you could get the same thing out of buying shocks/springs/struts for around 500? Except the shocks springs struts would not be adjustable. Is this the only difference, or am I missing out on something here?
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"I almost numchucked you, you dont even reallise!!" -Will Ferrell-[#] Jun 11, 2008 03:54am TheFantasticG
- Scion Guru
Nooooooooooooooooooooo it's not true.
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[#] Jun 11, 2008 04:15am Vicious
- El Chupacabra
- CrashUSAF wrote:
- So instead of buying a 900-1000 dollar coilover set, you could get the same thing out of buying shocks/springs/struts for around 500? Except the shocks springs struts would not be adjustable. Is this the only difference, or am I missing out on something here?
Yea, pretty much.
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[#] Jun 11, 2008 06:51am Crash
- Godlike Advisor
Awesome, Ill be going this route then!
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"I almost numchucked you, you dont even reallise!!" -Will Ferrell-[#] Jun 11, 2008 07:10am Web
- THE SHADOW
Coilover kits are for track setups and not really meant for street use. The point of adjusting your suspension is to set it for a specific track style (lots of hills, very flat track, track with high turns....). Those track styles determine how the suspension is going to be set, you change it, and you go race. The problem with using them on the street is that the streets are not "constant" like the tracks. You can try to find a happy medium between the settings, but isn't that just negating the point of being able to adjust them? Granted, you take it to the track sometimes and adjust it for the 1/4, but then you adjust it back. Problem with that is that if it's not exactly at the setting it was before, your alignment is off. Good bye to your tires the more you do that.
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http://clubsciontc.com/fo...-rims--5x100-pattern.html[#] Jun 11, 2008 08:47am krdshrk
- Godlike Advisor
Uh - you do realize that our stock suspension IS coilovers, right?
You can get coilovers for street - that's how a lot of them are for our car anyway.
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220+ WHP - 14.044 @ 97.02 MPH[#] Jun 11, 2008 09:05am falkore24
- Vehicle Designer
In a technical sense, you're right Nick .... all MacPheresons are technically coilovers.
In the tuning scene, we all know that the term "coilover" is used to mean "height adjustable coilovers that are sold as a complete matched spring & damper system"
[#] Jun 11, 2008 10:38am Web
- THE SHADOW
^Yes. Height adjustable systems along with dampening/rebound adjustable kits are what I was describing as coilovers. A coil over a strut is just that...a coilover system. But for sake of tuning, we'll consider the adjustable kits as coilovers vs. stock setups.
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http://clubsciontc.com/fo...-rims--5x100-pattern.html[#] Jun 11, 2008 08:14pm andino
- Godlike Advisor
coilovers (adjustable ones) will allow you much more control over your car's handling and response characteristics. Springs and strut combos will give you a preset ride height and dampening setting (except if you're using Koni Yellows which allow you to adjust the dampening). The benefit of coilovers also come from the ability to corner balance your car so that you have maximum traction while going into turns and overall weight distribution. Most coilover systems also allow you at adjust dampening to conform to the type of track and road material where you race so that you can push your tires to their limits and shave off those vital seconds to hopefully win the race. Of course just having coilovers won't do that for you as you'll need the supporting mods as well. (i.e. sway bars, strut bars, tires, lightweight rims, brakes, etc)
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Have a question and no one is willing to help? Shoot me a PM or hit me up on AIM.[#] Jun 11, 2008 08:21pm elgatogrande
- Window Washer
Coilovers would be good for me because I could raise the ride height during inclement weather in the winter. Im not a planning on doing any racing. I went with the Tokicos and Htechs because of economic reasons. Im hoping/thinking/crossing my fingers that its not too much of a drop in the snow. If it is I will have my OEM stuff I can put back on.
Thanks for all the input. While I already understood the difference between springs/struts/shocks and coilovers, All your guys opinions helped.
I should have it all on by the warehouse party in Aurora IL later this month. See ya all there!
[#] Jun 12, 2008 05:14am
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