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Home > Performance Mods > Transmission / Drivetrain > New clutch and flywheel driving me CRAZY!!!

New clutch and flywheel driving me CRAZY!!!

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RuniCtC

Reg'd: Apr 02, 2008

Tire Changer

I recently had the Fidanza lightweight flywheel and Clutchmasters stage 3 clutch installed, and I cannot start in first gear smoothly!!! Reverse is the same way! It feels like the flywheel isn't matching well with the clutch or something. It shakes a little, even though I'm being really careful. ALL other gears are ok.

The clutch cable is out as far as it will go(maximum play).

ANY ADVICE?!?!

[#] Apr 10, 2008 06:23pm
DaRkDaYz08

Reg'd: Apr 03, 2008

Tech Advisor

you try bleeding out the slave cylinder...possibly have some air in the system??? worth a shot see if that maybe helps a lil...

[#] Apr 10, 2008 06:55pm
rrimportracer

Reg'd: Feb 28, 2006

Godlike Advisor

sorry there is no clutch cable on these cars, and you were asking for this when you installed the stage 3 clutch

stage 3 is pointless unless your going to utilize the clamping force, otherwise your just making it harder on yourself


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[#] Apr 10, 2008 07:55pm
Web

Reg'd: Apr 17, 2006

THE SHADOW

haha, stage III?....WHY? Even stage I turbo..hell, stage II turbo wouldn't require a stage III clutch!

If it's a puck clutch, then that's what you get to deal with. The most you should have bought was a Stage II kevlar/carbon sprung clutch with that flywheel. You're going to hate your car really fast.


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[#] Apr 10, 2008 09:55pm
Orin

Reg'd: Dec 08, 2005


Clutchmasters Stage III is a puck type... yikes!

I've got a Fidanza Flywheel with an OEM style replacement clutch, smooth like butter.

[#] Apr 10, 2008 09:58pm
RuniCtC

Reg'd: Apr 02, 2008

Tire Changer

Puck type???

Here's what happenned: I ordered a stage 2 as was recommended by numerous others. Clutchmasters sent me the wrong clutch(as in not even for a tC), then overnighted me a stage 3 because they either didn't have any 2's in stock or they wanted to get rid of a 3, I dunno. The car had been in the shop 5 days by then, so I figured stage 3 will have to work.

I could really use some POSITIVE advice, like that of darkdayz08's.

I just want to make sure the clutch or flywheel doesn't break due to a labor mistake or by fundamentally flawed parts. Does the symptom of 'shuddering' simply come from the type of clutch it is?

Thanks

[#] Apr 10, 2008 10:21pm
Web

Reg'd: Apr 17, 2006

THE SHADOW

RuniCtC wrote:
Puck type???

Here's what happenned: I ordered a stage 2 as was recommended by numerous others. Clutchmasters sent me the wrong clutch(as in not even for a tC), then overnighted me a stage 3 because they either didn't have any 2's in stock or they wanted to get rid of a 3, I dunno. The car had been in the shop 5 days by then, so I figured stage 3 will have to work.

I could really use some POSITIVE advice, like that of darkdayz08's.

I just want to make sure the clutch or flywheel doesn't break due to a labor mistake or by fundamentally flawed parts. Does the symptom of 'shuddering' simply come from the type of clutch it is?

Thanks



Eh, just pokin' some fun...

The feeling you are having is b/c the clutch catches so quickly that any little vibration from the crank is transferred immediately through the trany and up into the car. You are going to have that feeling for a while until it's broken in, but even then, it's going to be there for the most part. A puck clutch is one that has segments vs. being one continuous ring.



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[#] Apr 10, 2008 10:32pm
RuniCtC

Reg'd: Apr 02, 2008

Tire Changer

Ok... so If I can get ahold of a stage two clutch, will the Fidanza flywheel need to be RESURFACED???

[#] Apr 17, 2008 12:22pm
Orin

Reg'd: Dec 08, 2005


The Fidanza flywheel uses a plate which can be replaced rather than having to re-surface the flywheel. I'm sure replacing the plate is much cheaper.

[#] Apr 17, 2008 12:42pm
FrAnkRYzzO

Reg'd: Oct 21, 2005

$upervillain
for Hire

I'm not sure where to get the replacement friction plates from, but here are the part numbers from Fidanza:

Fidanza.com wrote:
IF FRICTION SURFACE HAS A 11.75” DIAMETER ORDER PART # 221171
IF FRICTION SURFACE HAS AN 11” DIAMETER ORDER PART # 221101
IF FRICTION SURFACE HAS A 8.75” DIAMETER ORDER PART # 228751
IF FRICTION SURFACE HAS A 9” DIAMETER ORDER PART # 229001
IF FRICTION SURFACE HAS A 9.85” DIAMETER ORDER PART # 229851
IF FRICTION SURFACE HAS A 9.5” DIAMETER ORDER PART # 229501
IF FRICTION SURFACE HAS A 5.075” INNER DIAMETER ORDER PART # 228501
IF FRICTION SURFACE HAS A 5.875” INNER DIAMETER ORDER PART # 228591



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[#] Apr 17, 2008 12:53pm
RuniCtC

Reg'd: Apr 02, 2008

Tire Changer

Is the replacement friction plate something that would come seperately than the flywheel? I didn't realize I'd have to buy that as well...

[#] Apr 17, 2008 01:30pm
Xero187

Reg'd: Mar 04, 2005

Detailer

So you're using a Clutchmaster Stage 3 (the fx300) Segmented Kevlar?

If so that is what I'm currently running however it is paired up to a competition clutch ultralight forged steel flywheel.

For the first couple hundred miles it was freakin crazy! The bite was hard and fast (very very easy to stall and look like n00b). Clutch pedal catch point only 3/4" off the ground approximately. That's never going to change, however the initial bite will tone down alot as you break it in. Being that you're still N/A you can drive it hard and it will break in fine. Just don't go crazy dropping the clutch hard above 2k or feathering the sh!t out of it from a dig.

After 500 miles on a fx300, it's pleasure with only slightly heavier pedal feel than stock. It grabs better much better than stock and once she's engaged, hold on!

Also, you may notice a very very slight amount of chatter feathering the clutch sometimes, nothing like a puck style. I'm not positive, but it is probably due to the fact that it is a segmented disc.

Any questions may be I can help, feel free to pm!


here's the link to the pick since it got resized bad
http://www.clutchmasters.com/shop/Graphics/FX300page.jpg

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[#] Apr 20, 2008 05:30pm
Orin

Reg'd: Dec 08, 2005


RuniCtC wrote:
Is the replacement friction plate something that would come seperately than the flywheel? I didn't realize I'd have to buy that as well...


the flywheel has the plate bolted into it, instead of resurfacing the flywheel after time, you buy a replacement plate and screw it in.

[#] Apr 20, 2008 05:49pm
RuniCtC

Reg'd: Apr 02, 2008

Tire Changer

The new clutch is JUST NOW being installed today. I went with a stage I to try to get as close to stock-feel as possible. I've now been without my tC for 2 WEEKS!!!

I'm really hoping this works out...

BTW, What is it that the tranny shop adjusted to vary the play in the pedal?

[#] May 05, 2008 01:06pm
TheFantasticG

Reg'd: May 17, 2008

Vehicle Designer

ANy update on this?


[#] May 19, 2008 05:11am
RuniCtC

Reg'd: Apr 02, 2008

Tire Changer

Stage I clutch has been installed, and I am pretty happy with it. It doesn't feel like-stock, but it's pretty close. The new flywheel makes it harder to shift smoothly, but I think the gain in acceleration far outweighs the loss in driveability. You can drive smoothly through the gears if you're concentrating really hard.

I hope to take my tC to the track soon to see how low a 15 it will run.

Will update later

[#] May 25, 2008 03:45pm

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