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Radio becomes static when HID turns on

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joe9100
Schaumburg
Illinois, US
  • Window Washer
My radio is perfectly fine and i get really good receptions but once i turn on my headlights (HIDs from ebay $80), the radio immediately has static. Is this normal. The HID is on a relay so it is drawing electricity from the battery and the HID works completely fine. The only thing is that when I turn the HID on, the radio signal becomes a little bit crappy.

For those people who has HID on their tc, do you expereince that, or is it just me.

Is there an explanation for this static and is there a way to fix it.

Thanks for all you response.

[#] Jan 29, 2008 12:52am
SquallLHeart
  • The Techie
i think it's just you... dunno what's going on in your car man...


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[#] Jan 29, 2008 03:54am
HyPnOtIk
Victorville
California, US
  • Tech Advisor
Yeah i havent heard of this problem before !



[#] Jan 29, 2008 04:45am
HANSome
Maybrook
New York, US
  • Chief Mechanic
wtf thats weird.


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[#] Jan 29, 2008 06:54am
operatic
Houston
Texas, US
  • Scion Guru
joe9100 wrote:
My radio is perfectly fine and i get really good receptions but once i turn on my headlights (HIDs from ebay $80), the radio immediately has static. Is this normal. The HID is on a relay so it is drawing electricity from the battery and the HID works completely fine. The only thing is that when I turn the HID on, the radio signal becomes a little bit crappy.

For those people who has HID on their tc, do you expereince that, or is it just me.

Is there an explanation for this static and is there a way to fix it.

Thanks for all you response.


Put the negative wire on the HID relay harness your kit came with and put it on the negative post of your battery. That usually fixes the problem.

[#] Jan 29, 2008 07:19am
SoFloTC
Boca Raton
Florida, US
  • Godlike Advisor
shoulda bought a kit from operatic


[#] Jan 29, 2008 07:34am
brianc500
Kalamazoo
Michigan, US
  • Master Mechanic
Well apparently there are a shit ton of people who have this problem. I'm not exactly sure if it's due to the ballast quality or the actual harness that is used. I searched some other forums to see if anybody had a known fix.....

Quote:
When these lamps are in operation a continuous arc is produced across the two electrodes which causes the gas/metal combination inside the glass tube to glow and produce light. When the flow of electricity is forced to arc, it sends out an electromagnetic pulse, which is the cause of your interference on your radio.

Radio receivers are very sensitive to this type of interference, and as the lamp is constantly arcing, the interference will probably be heard as a buzzing.

The best advice I can offer is to make sure your lamp ballasts and cables are well away from your aerial coax. Also make sure the coax sleeving is correctly connected as it's there to shield the main signal in the center and prevent interference.



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[#] Jan 29, 2008 01:19pm
brianc500
Kalamazoo
Michigan, US
  • Master Mechanic
sofresh23 wrote:
shoulda bought a kit from operatic


X2


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[#] Jan 29, 2008 01:21pm
Paulz0r
Naperville
Illinois, US
  • Tech Advisor
brianc500 wrote:
sofresh23 wrote:
shoulda bought a kit from operatic


X2


well i have the operatic kit and have the same problem =P

From what i have tested, the radio get more static during the "charge up" phase of when i turn my car on. i have my ballasts zip-tied to the front crash bar (i think thats what its called) and there are a bunch of wires that run on top of it right near the ballast itself. (got the idea from Web by the way). I also just kinda hid the extra wires under the fuse box which could also be the problem. im gunna try and diagnose this when i get home today in a few hours and i will get back to you.

[#] Jan 29, 2008 01:33pm
joe9100
Schaumburg
Illinois, US
  • Window Washer
these static should now be from the relay harness because i have had the hid w/o relay for like 4 months and have been having static (not just the charging period but whenever they are on). I bought a relay harness like 2 days ago and install it two days ago, and the problem is the same, so its not because of a relay that causes this static. Anyone has a solution to this problem?

How isn't stock HID like lexus having these problems... PLease help

And Operatic, what would switching the connector to the battery from neg to pos do... Wouldn't the hid not work or blow up or something... How would your suggestion solve the problem and have you had previous experience with this situation? Please help me out thanks.

[#] Jan 29, 2008 04:11pm
FrAnkRYzzO
Perry Hall
Maryland, US
  • $upervillain
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What operatic was trying to suggest is that you connect the grounding strap directly to the negative battery terminal rather then grounding to the frame. Grounding to the battery has solved this problem on several member's tC's who have experienced the static after the HID install. Hopefully that clarifies the fix.


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[#] Jan 29, 2008 04:25pm
StreetDreamz
Massachusetts, US
  • Tire Changer
sofresh23 wrote:
shoulda bought a kit from operatic


x3 lol. I didn't have this problem I wired mine up no static no nothing. but then again I didn't buy from ebay. But try what operatic said and try connecting the negative lead directly to the negative terminal of your battery


[#] Jan 29, 2008 06:37pm
BlueFin
Orlando
Florida, US
  • Tech Advisor
When I installed my HIDS, My radio improved - I was able to get more stations I grounded my HIDS to the battery

[#] Jan 29, 2008 06:54pm
joe9100
Schaumburg
Illinois, US
  • Window Washer
i will give it a try but i still don't understand what all you people are suggesting.

Are you guys suggesting that I ground the relay onto the negative terminal of the battery??? Because I have two wires that connects to the battery, one to the pos and one to the neg. I also have a flat metal plate that I use to ground the relay. My relay harness is grounded to the battery holder. You know the two long metal rod that kind of wraps around the battery, thats where i grounded my relay.

So am i suppose to remove that metal plate which is suppose to be the ground and touch the neg terminal? If so, how can i do that, the neg terminal is round, and all i have is a I believe an amp on top of a flat metal plate and will not stick onto the neg terminal bc its not a wire.


Please clarify more with pictures or in detail if you can..

I really appreciate all of your help

[#] Jan 29, 2008 07:47pm
StreetDreamz
Massachusetts, US
  • Tire Changer
It sounds to me that you have more wires than I do. Let me find my camera and go take some pics of my set up

[#] Jan 29, 2008 07:56pm
StreetDreamz
Massachusetts, US
  • Tire Changer
*double post*

[#] Jan 29, 2008 07:57pm
scionteecee
Fairfax
Virginia, US
  • Chief Mechanic
interference. wut can u expect from ebay quality.

[#] Jan 29, 2008 08:22pm
pallotti71687
Annandale
New Jersey, US
  • Detailer
I have operatics kit and i have the same problem... can anyone help at all, what are some suggestions as to where to mount ballasts, if thats the cause. and i grounded directly to the batterys negative terminal and still no change in the radio.


[#] Sep 04, 2008 01:41pm
Beckaz_tC
Mesa
Arizona, US
  • Scion Guru
My radio gets static when it's overcast or raining outside. I have stock radio, it's just the antenna i have. That's when my cd's come in handy


[#] Sep 04, 2008 02:42pm
pallotti71687
Annandale
New Jersey, US
  • Detailer
well, haha, ya know i never reAlly listen to the radio... i ahve my ipod but for some reason i just really want this to work. haha


[#] Sep 04, 2008 02:47pm
falkore24
New Jersey, US
  • Vehicle Designer
Try this .... start the car and turn on the radio and the lights so you can hear the static. Now take a spare piece of 4ga. wire and jump the neg. terminal battery to the chasis somewhere that you can make a good temporary connection. If the static goes away or improves, do a big 3 upgrade or install a grounding kit (same thing, DIY vs. kit) I prefer the DIY upgrade because a kit with 1/0 wire is way too expensive and I can run 3 1/0 wires a lot neater than 6-12 8ga. wires.

[#] Sep 04, 2008 02:51pm
pallotti71687
Annandale
New Jersey, US
  • Detailer
ok leme see what i can do, ill reply back, i actually thought it may have had something to dow ith the grounding, however while i was moving my ballasts around i found a sweet spot above the engine that made the radio work nicely, until i put it down, haha anyway ill give it a shot.


[#] Sep 04, 2008 03:05pm
pallotti71687
Annandale
New Jersey, US
  • Detailer
can you define some of the things you just said to me also... 1/0 big 3... all of it, haha. i did understand 4 gauge wire tho. but i dont have any 4g wire.


[#] Sep 04, 2008 03:17pm
pallotti71687
Annandale
New Jersey, US
  • Detailer
bump for help!!!!


[#] Sep 04, 2008 04:28pm
Web
Maryland, US
  • THE SHADOW
I used to have the static issue with my kit as well but that was only when I had the ground wire connected to the radiator core support. Painted metal is NOT a good ground. I moved it to the negative battery post and that cured it all.

Check to make sure every connection is secure and there's no white corrosion on the ground or any connector.



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[#] Sep 04, 2008 06:42pm
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