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TheBoggieMan Nashville Tennessee, US Tire Changer	Yo i need some advice here yo, imma bout to put an intake on my 08 tc but not dat sure on which one to get the weapons type R short ram or the injen cold air? any tips? cause they both claim to be the best and im confused now the weapons type are says that its better than any cold air cause of the ways its designed, its supposed to have like 2 air passages that flow in opposite directions creating a vaccum for more air to get in. and the injen cold air is supposed to be the only and first acutual tuned intake for peak performance
[#] Oct 04, 2007 06:03pm
hvtopiwala Winter Park Florida, US Godlike Advisor	how about, u buy the injen and use it as a cold air, and if u dont like it, convert it to a short ram that way u can switch between ram and cold air whenever u like!
[#] Oct 04, 2007 06:04pm
johnbowen Hickory North Carolina, US Tire Changer	I like my short ram alot better then a cold air
[#] Oct 04, 2007 06:22pm
soCAL-tc Los Angeles California, US Scion Guru	johnbowen wrote: I like my short ram alot better then a cold air ^x2, but i think we might be the only ones...lol...it's all good!
[#] Oct 04, 2007 06:29pm
exiled622 San Diego California, US Scion Guru	soCAL-tc wrote: johnbowen wrote: I like my short ram alot better then a cold air ^x2, but i think we might be the only ones...lol...it's all good! Got that right! hahaha CAI FTW!
[#] Oct 04, 2007 06:42pm
Mugetsu Hollywood Florida, US Scion Guru	SRI's are for driving all out on the highway! CAI's are "cool" and for putting around town and racing civics... your intake says alot about you... wow that was more intense than that one time I forgot how to sit down...
[#] Oct 04, 2007 06:56pm
Mayo Rockville Maryland, US *The Guru*	You can find a lot of info about intakes here: http://www.clubsciontc.co...ow-About-Air-Intakes.html "gonna wash my car before i take a nap.. can't rest well knowing i've got the entire cast of A Bug's Life on my bumper" - Vicious -- Want to post a "For Sale" thread? Check out the rules first.
[#] Oct 04, 2007 08:07pm
Flawl3ss Chicago Illinois, US Tech Advisor	soCAL-tc wrote: johnbowen wrote: I like my short ram alot better then a cold air ^x2, but i think we might be the only ones...lol...it's all good! Motion carried, Weapon-R rocks.
[#] Oct 04, 2007 08:23pm
Web Maryland, US THE SHADOW	I started with K&N and decided to try the Weapon R. I tried it for about 30 minutes and decided to take it out b/c it was bogging my car down. Come to find out, the filter wasn't oiled and I would have to spend more money and wait longer to get the oil shipped to me. I just put the K&N CAI back on and have loved it ever since. I can't complain with my 30.2 mpg average ...90% highway Complaining is futile when you supported the victory. http://clubsciontc.com/fo...-rims--5x100-pattern.html
[#] Oct 04, 2007 09:12pm
Web Maryland, US THE SHADOW	Flawl3ss wrote: soCAL-tc wrote: johnbowen wrote: I like my short ram alot better then a cold air ^x2, but i think we might be the only ones...lol...it's all good! Motion carried, Weapon-R rocks. Weapon R seemed cheap to me. The "rubber" flanges felt like hard plastic, the filter connector was made of the same material and was difficult to keep tightened on the pipe, the pipe support was a cheap piece of aluminum and the valve cover breather outlet on the pipe was in a position that made the hose bend on itself. Sorry for being so against Weapon R, but their SRI was one of the worst designs that I've seen for intakes on just about any car. I do agree they sound good, but the overall construction of them felt very cheap to me. I've installed K&N and Injen and amongst those 2, I would say Injen felt better constructed. I was just too impatient when I bought my car. Mayo brought his car over and I installed his Injen setup and thought it was nice. Plus, Injen can go either CAI or SRI....it's the ONLY one so far that can do that of ALL the tC intakes. Complaining is futile when you supported the victory. http://clubsciontc.com/fo...-rims--5x100-pattern.html
[#] Oct 04, 2007 09:16pm
ssm_251 Mobile Alabama, US Detailer	I like my CAI, but after hydrolocking my car i'm thinking about switching to short ram. if your area gets a lot of heavy rain i would say go SR. i get so paranoid now when it rains because the water can sometimes get like 3 inches on certain roads here.
[#] Oct 05, 2007 12:19am
Web Maryland, US THE SHADOW	Yeah, those situations are meant more for SRI. Complaining is futile when you supported the victory. http://clubsciontc.com/fo...-rims--5x100-pattern.html
[#] Oct 05, 2007 06:59am
Vicious Orlando Florida, US El Chupacabra	We've been having lots of heavy heavy rain lately but my CAI hasn't hydro-locked my motor yet -knocks on wood- Gotta love Injen's CAI The Thread Killah
[#] Oct 05, 2007 09:05am
soCAL-tc Los Angeles California, US Scion Guru	i've toyed around with different setups...i had an injen initially but then i thought i'd make a quick jump to f/i so i sold it...1yr+ later, still no f/i...lol...nevertheless, since then i've been running different sri setups and the one i'm running now is probably the torquiest and loudest but the one i had before was a little better for overall power(meaning different filter and hosing/setup)....and although i too believe injen, k&n, etc. stand atop the hiearchy of the tuning world, the difference is minimal(trust me, i've felt it) but the price isn't...in the long run you're just paying for the name and a few better weldings and plastics on the outside, however nothing that effects performance...
[#] Oct 05, 2007 10:19am
FrAnkRYzzO Perry Hall Maryland, US $upervillain for Hire	Flawl3ss wrote: soCAL-tc wrote: johnbowen wrote: I like my short ram alot better then a cold air ^x2, but i think we might be the only ones...lol...it's all good! Motion carried, Weapon-R rocks. Weapon R FTW Had it for two years and loved it. Web does bring up some good points though. The return valve is definitely in a bass ackwards spot. I took a hose clamp and tightened it on the spot where it was creasing so that it was forced to stay round. You can get the ram air attachment if you want to pull colder air, but it doesn't convert to a true cai like the injen. I've always been happy with it and would recommend it any day. Mugetsu wrote: SRI's are for driving all out on the highway! CAI's are "cool" and for putting around town and racing civics... your intake says alot about you... :twisted: ............... Search or one of these adorable kittens WILL DIE!
[#] Oct 05, 2007 10:49am
BRsciontc Wantagh New York, US Master Mechanic	What I dont like about short ram intakes is they are so close to the engine, and all the hot air under the hood is whats getting sucked in to the engine. Thats why I bought the injen, so i can keep it as a cold air intake so the cold air that comes through the grill i drilled holes through(but im soon replacing with a better vented one)on the drivers side gets sucked in to the engine. Its much better then having all the hot air going through the intake. THats why its called cold air intake. And if it rains a lot ill just switch it to sr.
[#] Oct 05, 2007 11:25am
sicktc06 Atlanta Georgia, US Vehicle Designer	I like my Weapon R... No problems at all with it and it looks great! This is the best pic I have of it... But you still can't see it very well though... http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l207/Sicktc06/078.jpg A Small Tweak, Makes a Big Difference. Now here! Look close! http://i97.photobucket.co...6/Scion%20tC/DSC_0158.jpg Don't follow me... I run into walls. http://www.myspace.com/sicktc06
[#] Oct 05, 2007 11:47am
Orin Auburn Alabama, US	I enjoy using the SR setup even a short ram intake has it's benefits regardless of engine air temp right now I'm using Injen's CAI setup because it fits my driving style
[#] Oct 05, 2007 12:06pm
Aciidsneaker Marshfield Wisconsin, US	I enjoy my Weapon R Short Ram Scion Wiki ~~ Donate for the cause, make this site better!!
[#] Oct 05, 2007 12:29pm
soCAL-tc Los Angeles California, US Scion Guru	BRsciontc wrote: What I dont like about short ram intakes is they are so close to the engine, and all the hot air under the hood is whats getting sucked in to the engine. Thats why I bought the injen, so i can keep it as a cold air intake so the cold air that comes through the grill i drilled holes through(but im soon replacing with a better vented one)on the drivers side gets sucked in to the engine. Its much better then having all the hot air going through the intake. THats why its called cold air intake. And if it rains a lot ill just switch it to sr. ^dude this is if you're runnging an extremely high temp, f/i possibly...otherwise, the difference is not really noticeable, especially perfomance wise....maybe after running hard for hours cai would be a little torqier other than there is really no difference...the important thing is that any open intake is better than that stock piece of shit they call an intake..
[#] Oct 05, 2007 12:58pm
Flawl3ss Chicago Illinois, US Tech Advisor	Web wrote: Flawl3ss wrote: soCAL-tc wrote: johnbowen wrote: I like my short ram alot better then a cold air ^x2, but i think we might be the only ones...lol...it's all good! Motion carried, Weapon-R rocks. Weapon R seemed cheap to me. The "rubber" flanges felt like hard plastic, the filter connector was made of the same material and was difficult to keep tightened on the pipe, the pipe support was a cheap piece of aluminum and the valve cover breather outlet on the pipe was in a position that made the hose bend on itself. Sorry for being so against Weapon R, but their SRI was one of the worst designs that I've seen for intakes on just about any car. I do agree they sound good, but the overall construction of them felt very cheap to me. I've installed K&N and Injen and amongst those 2, I would say Injen felt better constructed. I was just too impatient when I bought my car. Mayo brought his car over and I installed his Injen setup and thought it was nice. Plus, Injen can go either CAI or SRI....it's the ONLY one so far that can do that of ALL the tC intakes. I agree with alot of what your saying, the parts on the intake don't seem to be constructed well, I was considering a CAI but it rains TOO much here in Chicago..so no hydro-locking for me plus the SR serves as a good economical alternative.
[#] Oct 05, 2007 02:35pm
soCAL-tc Los Angeles California, US Scion Guru	to be honest i like my sri cuz it's so dam easy to clean...!
[#] Oct 05, 2007 02:40pm
tc1stgen Killeen Texas, US Scion Guru	A CAI pulls in colder air because the filter is lower to the ground. (Cold air sinks and hot air rises) The cold the air coming into the engine, the more horsepower you can achieve. A SRI pulls in hot air because the filter sits in the engine bay. Even with a heat shield, it is not protecting it from all the heat. Even though it is allowing more air to come in, it is hotter air so you aren't really getting any HP. If you are looking for just some sound and for the look in your engine bay, then go with a SRI, if your looking for power, then go with a CAI. Injen makes a good CAI and you can convert between a CAI and SRI, so you could get the best of both worlds! Ask me about Innovative Car Works! LED's is their specialty! http://www.ItsMyScion.com/tc1stgen http://www.myspace.com/tc1stgen http://www.tunerfriends.c...mber.php?u=13341&8685 http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3084016 "NOS is like a hot girl with STD's, you want to hit it but are afraid of the consequences!"
[#] Oct 05, 2007 07:06pm
BRsciontc Wantagh New York, US Master Mechanic	soCAL-tc wrote: BRsciontc wrote: What I dont like about short ram intakes is they are so close to the engine, and all the hot air under the hood is whats getting sucked in to the engine. Thats why I bought the injen, so i can keep it as a cold air intake so the cold air that comes through the grill i drilled holes through(but im soon replacing with a better vented one)on the drivers side gets sucked in to the engine. Its much better then having all the hot air going through the intake. THats why its called cold air intake. And if it rains a lot ill just switch it to sr. ^dude this is if you're runnging an extremely high temp, f/i possibly...otherwise, the difference is not really noticeable, especially perfomance wise....maybe after running hard for hours cai would be a little torqier other than there is really no difference...the important thing is that any open intake is better than that stock piece of shit they call an intake.. I agree, The stock one is a piece of shit. I may switch my intake to short ram soon anyway. I think it will look better and be a little louder than cold air.
[#] Oct 05, 2007 07:58pm
BRsciontc Wantagh New York, US Master Mechanic	tc1stgen wrote: A CAI pulls in colder air because the filter is lower to the ground. (Cold air sinks and hot air rises) The cold the air coming into the engine, the more horsepower you can achieve. A SRI pulls in hot air because the filter sits in the engine bay. Even with a heat shield, it is not protecting it from all the heat. Even though it is allowing more air to come in, it is hotter air so you aren't really getting any HP. If you are looking for just some sound and for the look in your engine bay, then go with a SRI, if your looking for power, then go with a CAI. Injen makes a good CAI and you can convert between a CAI and SRI, so you could get the best of both worlds! I agree with you also. Thats the same point I was trying to make.
[#] Oct 05, 2007 08:00pm

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