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Nitrous Install

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powerhouse21

Reg'd: Jun 10, 2007

Tech Advisor

So im gonna have my nitrous kit by friday and i want to go ahead and get it installed. Id just like to see some pics of another tc with nitrous and some step by step help so i dont screw it up. Ive had shops tell itll be 400 bucks to install which is crazy so im def gonna do this on my own but id really appreciate some help!!

[#] Sep 26, 2007 09:39am
doock87

Reg'd: May 18, 2005

Oil Changer

Check out my thread, i'm installing my own kit as well. I've outlined in excruciating detail the replacement of the stock nylon fuel hose with a rubber hose. I'm installing the rest of the kit tonight, so watch out for updates!

[#] Sep 26, 2007 10:05am
powerhouse21

Reg'd: Jun 10, 2007

Tech Advisor

well i have a dry kit so i dont have to mess with the fuel line or anything. All i need to worry about is drilling into the intake...still worries me though. Where is the MAF because i know i need to drill before it.

[#] Sep 26, 2007 02:13pm
MrScion07

Reg'd: Sep 09, 2006

Godlike Advisor

do u have any buddys that already have a kit even if they didnt install it on a tc im sure they could lend a helpful thought. I have a buddy with a celica he said he would help me if i ever did it...



[#] Sep 26, 2007 02:44pm
doock87

Reg'd: May 18, 2005

Oil Changer

The easiest way to install a dry kit is to get zex's filter with the nozzle installed on it already. That is if you have a cold air/short ram intake already installed. Otherwise, the MAF is the square looking sensor on your intake tube. Sorry that i can't give you more detailed advice, but this should help you out some.

[#] Sep 26, 2007 03:03pm
powerhouse21

Reg'd: Jun 10, 2007

Tech Advisor

no that helps. Now ive read to put it about 6-8 inches from the throttle body...where is that?

[#] Sep 26, 2007 10:17pm
07TouringCoupe

Reg'd: Jul 14, 2007

Scion Guru

powerhouse21 wrote:
no that helps. Now ive read to put it about 6-8 inches from the throttle body...where is that?


Your asking where the throttle body is? If so the throttle body is is silver circular thing that the intake connects to. If you take off the plasticVVTI engine cover you will have a perfect view of it. Or better yet follow the intake until the black stops and you see silver you cant miss it


A car is only as good as it's driver.
[#] Sep 26, 2007 11:19pm
nick06tc

Reg'd: May 20, 2006

Scion Guru

powerhouse21 wrote:
well i have a dry kit so i dont have to mess with the fuel line or anything. All i need to worry about is drilling into the intake...still worries me though. Where is the MAF because i know i need to drill before it.


A dry kit is not reccomended from our cars. We have a plastic intake manifold and with our ecu, it will have major issues making the required fuel changes. Do it if you want, but I think you are going to have major issues!!

Additionally, if you dont know where the MAF is, i dont think you should be doing this install. The MAF is one of the EASIEST things in our cars to find. Nitrous isnt something to just throw and go. You should have some knowledge on it prior to messing with it.

The maf is a few inches back from the airbox by the way. Good luck, your gonna need it.



[#] Sep 27, 2007 05:37am
nick06tc

Reg'd: May 20, 2006

Scion Guru

powerhouse21 wrote:
no that helps. Now ive read to put it about 6-8 inches from the throttle body...where is that?


Oh man, I hate to sound rude, but do not install your nitrous kit.
Do you have any knowledge on working on cars?

The throttle body, again, is EXTREMELY evident. Doing an install like a nitrous kit should be done by either a professional, or someone with some mechanical expertise on cars. The throttle body can be located on ANY car within seconds, by following the intake piping.

Dude, really consider not doing this yourself. I say this to help you, not to be mean.



[#] Sep 27, 2007 05:39am
powerhouse21

Reg'd: Jun 10, 2007

Tech Advisor

Thanks for the input guys..but im not doing this alone. I have a buddy who installed a nitrous kit on his mustang who is going to come over and help me out and he knows plenty about cars so we should be ok.

[#] Sep 27, 2007 09:09am
FrAnkRYzzO

Reg'd: Oct 21, 2005

$upervillain
for Hire

As was previously stated, a dry kit can be very destructive on our cars. If you definitely want to go dry, i wouldn't advise going any higher then a 50 shot. Our cars seem to handle those with reliability, but anything more, you're just asking for trouble. Good luck on the install, it can get kind of tricky.


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[#] Sep 27, 2007 12:56pm
hvtopiwala

Reg'd: Jan 03, 2007

Godlike Advisor

^what are u talking bout? a wet kit is no more safer than a dry kit. a dry kit is fine for the tC if properly used

[#] Sep 27, 2007 01:24pm
07TouringCoupe

Reg'd: Jul 14, 2007

Scion Guru

I jus figured a dry kit would be all that great because our ECU is adaptive at all. Any time you got to reset it with doing basic bolt on mods to get it to adjust, then asking the ECU to properly mix the n20 and the gas. That's jus my biggest thing


A car is only as good as it's driver.
[#] Sep 27, 2007 01:41pm
powerhouse21

Reg'd: Jun 10, 2007

Tech Advisor

can anybody post a pic of where i should put the nozzle? Or atleast a pic with an arrow or explanation?

[#] Sep 27, 2007 04:45pm
Mugetsu

Reg'd: Oct 11, 2006

Scion Guru

that nozzle needs to be no less than 6 inches "in front" of the MAF and no farther than 8, because of were it sits on the intake thats a near impossibility...

get it too close and your going to shock the shiz outta the hot wire and either bog rich or worse lean out, unless you have the AEM or TRD intake i would advise against a dry kit.
you need that nozzle in a fairly straight path with the MAF.

Yikes...




wow that was more intense than that one time I forgot how to sit down...
[#] Sep 27, 2007 05:01pm
nick06tc

Reg'd: May 20, 2006

Scion Guru

hvtopiwala wrote:
^what are u talking bout? a wet kit is no more safer than a dry kit. a dry kit is fine for the tC if properly used


What are you talking about?
A nitrous setup can be used for power, or fore cooling of intake temps (that would be a small shot of nitrous to provide cooling)

A wet kit relies on the settings of nozzles and pumps to get a proper mixture of air and fuel into the combustion chamber.
A dry kit relies on the ecu to realize there is more air coming into the engine and there for more fuel needing to be in the engine as well.

The stock scion tC ECU is not capable of making these adjustments on a large scale. It can do minute amounts, but not on the level of a nitrous system.

Youw ill most likely run extremely lean and have MAJOR detonation problems.
You cannot up the air intake without upping the fuel intake.

So how do you plan to adjust your air/fuel ratios, since you cant use a fuel nozzle to do it?



[#] Sep 27, 2007 05:30pm
hvtopiwala

Reg'd: Jan 03, 2007

Godlike Advisor

well how have i seen tons of people with 75 shot dry kits running just fine? retarding the timings?

[#] Sep 27, 2007 06:02pm
nick06tc

Reg'd: May 20, 2006

Scion Guru

You have seen TONS of people running a 75 dry shot in tCs?

I need to find places with TONS of tCs running nitrous, that happen to be dry shots, and 75shots. that would be a cool place to hang out.



[#] Sep 27, 2007 07:31pm
Mugetsu

Reg'd: Oct 11, 2006

Scion Guru

Its possible to run a 50 dry safely(if you know a few secrets)
I would not do 75, but you basically need a custom intake or the ones i listed above.

I have a zex nitrous injector amplifier(basically a cone filter with a dry jet good to 75 in one piece) NEW if you want it 40$ shipped.
its a 2.75" thought with a 6' dry line.

i would start with a 30 jet if i were him and work my way up...


wow that was more intense than that one time I forgot how to sit down...
[#] Sep 27, 2007 08:05pm
07TouringCoupe

Reg'd: Jul 14, 2007

Scion Guru

Ive read that dry is good for n/a cars which our cars are but at the same time its better with adaptive ECU'S that our cars dont have. Im gonna leave the ECU out of it and run wet.


A car is only as good as it's driver.
[#] Sep 28, 2007 12:03am
doock87

Reg'd: May 18, 2005

Oil Changer

That's what i decided to do, and i'd love to say it's working out just fine, but...

the wiring. Oh god the wiring. Why can't i get 3 wires to work?

[#] Sep 28, 2007 12:09am
07TouringCoupe

Reg'd: Jul 14, 2007

Scion Guru

I dont think the install is hard but i still aint doing mine.


A car is only as good as it's driver.
[#] Sep 28, 2007 12:17am
powerhouse21

Reg'd: Jun 10, 2007

Tech Advisor

yeah looking at everything i have i know that hardest part will be wiring up the switches but im gonna take that downt he street to a shop and have them do all 3 switches for me for about 50 bucks...its worth it.

[#] Sep 28, 2007 09:57am
Imagin

Reg'd: Jul 06, 2007

Master Mechanic

1 Word

BOOM

[#] Sep 28, 2007 10:08am
doock87

Reg'd: May 18, 2005

Oil Changer

Imagin wrote:
1 Word

BOOM


couple words:

it's not gonna happen

[#] Sep 28, 2007 10:59am
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