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doock87


Reg'd: May 18, 2005

Oil Changer

If only such a guide existed.

I'm still looking for the holy grail of nitrous for the tC. I can't figure out how to tee the fuel line. I want to replace it and tee that, but i don't know how to take the ends off of the stock one.

Worse yet, i can't find a location for my solenoids!

Answer me, clubtc, have i just thrown 640$ to the wind?

[#] Sep 23, 2007 11:12pm
Orin


Reg'd: Dec 08, 2005


I'm sure someone here can guide you

we had a NOS expert here a while ago, but he's no longer active

[#] Sep 23, 2007 11:13pm
07TouringCoupe


Reg'd: Jul 14, 2007

Vehicle Designer

What kind of kit do you have?

A car is only as good as it's driver.
[#] Sep 23, 2007 11:57pm
lee_tc


Reg'd: Jan 12, 2007

Vehicle Designer

i say never use nitrous


[#] Sep 24, 2007 12:33am
missautobahn


Reg'd: May 23, 2007

Scion Guru

Orin wrote:
I'm sure someone here can guide you

we had a NOS expert here a while ago, but he's no longer active


I can still ask him questions for you. He's no longer on this site, but I still talk to him every once in a while. I'll see if he can't write something up and send it to me when I talk to him next for you.


"Ya'll in to racing? Me, I'm at the finish line." -Lil Wayne
[#] Sep 24, 2007 09:27am
doock87


Reg'd: May 18, 2005

Oil Changer

missautobahn wrote:
Orin wrote:
I'm sure someone here can guide you

we had a NOS expert here a while ago, but he's no longer active


I can still ask him questions for you. He's no longer on this site, but I still talk to him every once in a while. I'll see if he can't write something up and send it to me when I talk to him next for you.


This would rock hard.

For those of you who are interested, i bought a zex wet kit, so the solenoids and tps switch and whatnot are mounted in the little zex box.

"I say never use nitrous."
Don't post in this thread unless you've got something constructive to say, kthx.

[#] Sep 24, 2007 10:18am
missautobahn


Reg'd: May 23, 2007

Scion Guru

Okay cool, I'll tell him. I'll just tell him to get on and write it in the post for you, I'm sure he wouldn't mind You could actually probably message him, he still logs in from time to time. tc_by_trd is his user name.


"Ya'll in to racing? Me, I'm at the finish line." -Lil Wayne
[#] Sep 24, 2007 10:21am
Orin


Reg'd: Dec 08, 2005


tC_by_TRD
^link to his profile

[#] Sep 24, 2007 10:23am
doock87


Reg'd: May 18, 2005

Oil Changer

Thank you missautobahn and orin.

Wow is this forum helpful, i'm not used to getting this kind of treatment.

Missautobahn, please do what you can to get in contact with tc_by_trd. I'll shoot him a quick pm as well.

Seriously, thanks guys. If everything works out well i'll be juiced by wednesday. (also thanks to tc_by_trd's older posts for giving me a clever idea on how to engage nitrous)
[#] Sep 24, 2007 11:52am
missautobahn


Reg'd: May 23, 2007

Scion Guru

Anytime. I'd give him about a week or so because he's out of the country and is always busy, but he likes to answer nitrous questions

He's a good teacher of how to drive with nitrous, he taught me

And feel free to ask any question any time... if we can't answer it, we'll do our best to find some who will!


"Ya'll in to racing? Me, I'm at the finish line." -Lil Wayne
[#] Sep 24, 2007 11:53am
doock87


Reg'd: May 18, 2005

Oil Changer

missautobahn wrote:
Anytime. I'd give him about a week or so because he's out of the country and is always busy, but he likes to answer nitrous questions

He's a good teacher of how to drive with nitrous, he taught me

And feel free to ask any question any time... if we can't answer it, we'll do our best to find some who will!


Ok, i'm assuming you've got nitrous on your tc then. Did you do the install yourself or have someone help you? And do you have any pictures of your engine bay detailing locations of solenoids or fuel tee's?

I can wait a week for tc_by_trd if it comes to that, but i'd really like to start installing real components soon.

[#] Sep 24, 2007 11:59am
missautobahn


Reg'd: May 23, 2007

Scion Guru

Quote:
Ok, i'm assuming you've got nitrous on your tc then. Did you do the install yourself or have someone help you? And do you have any pictures of your engine bay detailing locations of solenoids or fuel tee's?

I can wait a week for tc_by_trd if it comes to that, but i'd really like to start installing real components soon.


I don't have nitrous, I learned how to drive his car.



"Ya'll in to racing? Me, I'm at the finish line." -Lil Wayne
[#] Sep 24, 2007 12:05pm
doock87


Reg'd: May 18, 2005

Oil Changer

missautobahn wrote:
I don't have nitrous, I learned how to drive his car.


Oops, my bad.

Ok, looks like i'll just hang out until i find out what i need to know!

[#] Sep 24, 2007 12:14pm
rlinbatonrouge


Reg'd: Jul 31, 2007

Tech Advisor

I'm guessing you are looking for a place to install the line for the fuel solenoid, right? You should use the schroeder valve on the fuel rail for that part. Where are you installing the jet? I'm assuming in the intake, right?

[#] Sep 24, 2007 12:55pm
doock87


Reg'd: May 18, 2005

Oil Changer

rlinbatonrouge wrote:
I'm guessing you are looking for a place to install the line for the fuel solenoid, right? You should use the schroeder valve on the fuel rail for that part. Where are you installing the jet? I'm assuming in the intake, right?


I don't think that there's a schrader valve to tap in to on the tc, that's why i'm thinking of tee-ing the fuel line. And yes, i'm installing the jet in the intake tube, not on the intake manifold.

[#] Sep 24, 2007 01:24pm
rlinbatonrouge


Reg'd: Jul 31, 2007

Tech Advisor

No valve? That's really wierd. Granted I don't have a tC yet (I'm waiting on the GF's car to keel over and die) so I can't look at the fuel rail for sure. There has to be one somewhere. How else would you check fuel pressure?

[#] Sep 24, 2007 01:57pm
doock87


Reg'd: May 18, 2005

Oil Changer

I'm pretty sure there's no schrader valve. I'll take a series of pictures of the tc's engine bay for you when i get home. I'm at school right now and i've got an exam at 3. I should be back home around 5-ish, so expect a picture update then.

I can't believe how much attention this thread is grabbing!

I plan on compiling all the pictures and information from this thread into a real-deal "how-to guide to wet nitrous" once i get all the info i need.

So keep posting ladies and gentlemen!

[#] Sep 24, 2007 02:08pm
rlinbatonrouge


Reg'd: Jul 31, 2007

Tech Advisor

doock87 wrote:
I'm pretty sure there's no schrader valve. I'll take a series of pictures of the tc's engine bay for you when i get home. I'm at school right now and i've got an exam at 3. I should be back home around 5-ish, so expect a picture update then.

I can't believe how much attention this thread is grabbing!


I'll look at the pics, but it won't be until tomorrow. Maybe someone else will chime in by then.

[#] Sep 24, 2007 02:11pm
doock87


Reg'd: May 18, 2005

Oil Changer

Alright, i found image hosting from imageshack. Here's the photos


This is the first fuel fitting, on the fuel rail.


This is a size comparison between the supplied tee and the stock fuel line.


This is the fitting coming from the hardline.


Here's a mockup of the zex box on the driver's side shock tower, right behind the intake.


This is an overview of the general location of the solenoid mounting location.


And this is how real racers do things. 10lb nitrous bottle and enormous subwoofer enclosure. Trunk space be damned.

I'll go out and get pictures of the fuel rail. Bear with me.
[#] Sep 24, 2007 08:29pm
doock87


Reg'd: May 18, 2005

Oil Changer

Ok, here's the fuel rail.


I wonder what's under that little hat? I tried unscrewing it, but i didn't unscrew it because it took a surprising amount of effort to move.

Any suggestions? Comments?

I'm sorry about the less than stellar image quality, i'm going to blame low light and the general shittiness of the camera i'm using.

[#] Sep 24, 2007 08:59pm
mark-tc


Reg'd: Apr 06, 2007

Detailer

hey i sent u a post reply to what u thank I Forgot too tell u , u need to run ur Jet(shot) into ur intake and the jet goes in between the throttle body and ur mass air flow sensor and let me tell u it is a pain in the ass to tighten it to the pipe but it can be done so be calm bout it. but let me no>>.

[#] Sep 24, 2007 09:53pm
mark-tc


Reg'd: Apr 06, 2007

Detailer

ohh ya on the fuel rail u have to un screw it, from the rail there is a rubber ring in it so becarefull dont loose it u need it and then there are 2 bolts holdint the rail on in the back take thos off and the rail pulls off, but becarefull again there are rubber rings(seals) in there on the injectors dont loose em or ill have to get more cuz u will leak gas..

[#] Sep 24, 2007 09:56pm
doock87


Reg'd: May 18, 2005

Oil Changer

Ok, i understand the jet placement, 6-18 inches from the TB and after the MAF. I think i'm losing you about the fuel rail though...

can you explain either in diagrams or in the pictures i took? Should i take pictures from a different angle?

I'm almost at the point where i just want to tap my stock plastic fuel line, it seems people have been having luck with that.

Thanks for the input, it's appreciated.

[#] Sep 24, 2007 10:17pm
rlinbatonrouge


Reg'd: Jul 31, 2007

Tech Advisor

doock87 wrote:
Ok, i understand the jet placement, 6-18 inches from the TB and after the MAF. I think i'm losing you about the fuel rail though...

can you explain either in diagrams or in the pictures i took? Should i take pictures from a different angle?

I'm almost at the point where i just want to tap my stock plastic fuel line, it seems people have been having luck with that.

Thanks for the input, it's appreciated.


I guess that's possible. I wouldn't recommend it though. If you change your mind or want to remove it that will be costly.

The 'little hat thing' in the picture is most likely a fuel pressure regulator. I need to spend a few minutes in the engine compartment to help out better. The pics just don't help me as much as I would like.

[#] Sep 25, 2007 08:28am
doock87


Reg'd: May 18, 2005

Oil Changer

Here are some diagrams taken straight from the tC manual. It's a guide to the fuel system, i guess. I'm sure many questions will be answered with these pages.











Also, i went to my favorite discount auto parts store to pick up a number of fuel line tools for cheap. They seem to be similar to the SST the manual is talking about. I'll get a picture of them later today.

[#] Sep 25, 2007 08:55am
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