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Ask me about my nitrous!!

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tC_by_trd

Reg'd: Mar 08, 2007

Vehicle Designer

hey guys whats up, so i want help out the community so if you guys have any questions about nitrous oxide jus ask me, you can pm me or jus post it up i will try to help with as much as i can. im pretty sure i can help i've read everything there is about nitrous and i know the basics about nitrous on tCs so jus ask away.


[#] May 23, 2007 03:06pm
SqMK


Reg'd: Dec 31, 1969

REPOLEVED

Do you have an images of how you installed nitrous? If not, could you post some images of your setup (more detailed than the ones in your profile) so other users can get an understanding of what goes where?



- I steal forum signatures.
[#] May 23, 2007 03:12pm
hvtopiwala


Reg'd: Jan 03, 2007

Godlike Advisor

too add onto tC_by_trd's post, i know alot obout the nitrous switches now, like window switchs, wot switches, fpss switches, and stuff, and how to make it safe lol.

[#] May 23, 2007 03:13pm
dsm3383


Reg'd: Mar 14, 2007

Scion Guru

You should also write up a basic "stuff to know" about nitrous and a set-up on the tC.


Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.

-Ben Franklin
[#] May 23, 2007 03:13pm
tC_by_trd

Reg'd: Mar 08, 2007

Vehicle Designer

i dont have any pictures of the engine bay and how its done but i will post them asap. but i do have some of the buttons and all that.


[#] May 23, 2007 03:13pm
tC_by_trd

Reg'd: Mar 08, 2007

Vehicle Designer





lil red one is purge and big red one is activation.



yeah guys ill work on that too, ill post up instructions on how too cut into the fuel line since that is what was the most pain in the ass about the whole set up on the tc


[#] May 23, 2007 03:16pm
SqMK


Reg'd: Dec 31, 1969

REPOLEVED

What is your take on nitrous + super/turbo chargers? Do you plan on doing either in the future and keeping your nitrous around?



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[#] May 23, 2007 03:18pm
hvtopiwala


Reg'd: Jan 03, 2007

Godlike Advisor

yeah i know tell me about it.

the dry kit just goes right near the maf sensor lol.

heres a little FAQ about the different switches u SHOULD use to make it safe.

Fuel Pressure Safety Switch(FPSS) - Basicly senses the fuel pressure and if it goes to an unsafe level, it shuts down ur entire nitrous function to stop any damage that might occur

Wide open throttle switch (WOTS) - pedal to the metal switch is the easy way to sum it up. kind of hard to do on the tC since it is a drive by wire throttle system, but there is 2 ways to do it, u can ghetto rig a switch under the pedal fulcrum or u can buy a fly-by-wire switch which goes in to the computer and senses the signals.

Window Switch - basicly, ur nitrous will only engage within a certain RPM range to prevent you from using it to early or using it to late while hitting the redlines on ur car.

They way i would have it would be,

Arming switch -> WOT Switch -> Window Switch
and have the FPSS switch too


[#] May 23, 2007 03:21pm
tC_by_trd

Reg'd: Mar 08, 2007

Vehicle Designer

alright well things to know::


on the tc (5 speed) never spray on 1st gear cause you will get some nasty wheel hop and you will also hit the revv limiter in no time at all.

when racing make sure you have the rpm above 2500, and if you are doubtin you self on spray above 3000 jus to be more safe.


try no to hold the button for longer than 12 second on each gear 2-5 gears.


on fifth gear try no to hold the button for longer than 10 seconds cause the overdrive gear is not used to take such a beating.

nitrous stuff: a window switch will help you not to spray under the rpm range that you set it up too.

a fuel pressure safety switch (fpss) will turn the whole nitrous sytem off if your fuel pressure ever drops under the needed psi's.

WOT switch will not work with our cars unless you get the throttle by wire one and i wouldnt reccomend it cause if you misshift and press the gas pedal all theway down you will spray and can cause major damage so i dont recomend wot switches. stick with the magic red button.


[#] May 23, 2007 03:21pm
hvtopiwala


Reg'd: Jan 03, 2007

Godlike Advisor

haha we both told about the switches.

but u can also get a gear sensing switch but its hella expensive and that makes sure ur in gear b4 it sprays. but i dont think u can do serious damage if u miss shift and put the pdeal down because u would relize that u misshifted

[#] May 23, 2007 03:22pm
tC_by_trd

Reg'd: Mar 08, 2007

Vehicle Designer

SqMK wrote:
What is your take on nitrous + super/turbo chargers? Do you plan on doing either in the future and keeping your nitrous around?




oh i would go turbo over nitrous anyday, but not everyone has the money to do it. and i say nitrous is alot of fun and has an advantage over turbo jus in the first 5 seconds or for aslong as the other one has turbo lag. cause nitrous is a suddent fast kick and will always stay the same as long as you have pressure.

the downside of nitrous is when you run empty you are out of the competition and with turbo you will always have it.

oh and im going turbo in a couple of months and i may keep the juice and boost depends on how it works out


[#] May 23, 2007 03:24pm
hvtopiwala


Reg'd: Jan 03, 2007

Godlike Advisor

u can also use nitrous to spin the turbo

[#] May 23, 2007 03:25pm
tC_by_trd

Reg'd: Mar 08, 2007

Vehicle Designer

hvtopiwala wrote:
haha we both told about the switches.

but u can also get a gear sensing switch but its hella expensive and that makes sure ur in gear b4 it sprays. but i dont think u can do serious damage if u miss shift and put the pdeal down because u would relize that u misshifted




yeah we said jus about the same stuff, oh if you spray and you misshift you are so into the race and your mind is set to press the button as soon and you move the knob you wont even notice that you misshifted until after you spray and no it wont be to much damage jus be real carefull with it, it has happend to me 2 and i now shift a lil slower jus to make sure it did go all the way in but when i presss the butotn it makes up for time lost



[#] May 23, 2007 03:26pm
dsm3383


Reg'd: Mar 14, 2007

Scion Guru

If your going turbo and considering keeping your nitrous what are your plans on internal work cause those two create ALOT of power and our stock internals will wilt and be very afraid of it.


Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.

-Ben Franklin
[#] May 23, 2007 03:27pm
tC_by_trd

Reg'd: Mar 08, 2007

Vehicle Designer

hvtopiwala wrote:
u can also use nitrous to spin the turbo




oh yeah big time, that is what ppl with big turbo do nitrous get rid of all turbo lag and also on forced induction cars the nitrous jettin is different, for example:

on a turbo car a 35 shot is a 50 shot and a 65 is a 75 and so on.



note: nitrous doesnt always give you the full 75hp at the wheels if you have a 75shot you will get an average of 60-65 whp gain the 75 goes into the flywheel.




[#] May 23, 2007 03:29pm
Web


Reg'd: Apr 17, 2006

THE SHADOW

dsm3383 wrote:
If your going turbo and considering keeping your nitrous what are your plans on internal work cause those two create ALOT of power and our stock internals will wilt and be very afraid of it.


Thick sleeves, pistons, rods, head, head studs, valves, retainers......all that would HAVE to get swapped.



I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones. A.E.

[#] May 23, 2007 03:29pm
hvtopiwala


Reg'd: Jan 03, 2007

Godlike Advisor

yup. nitrous is a good quick power shoot, but everything has its risks if not used correctly

[#] May 23, 2007 03:30pm
tC_by_trd

Reg'd: Mar 08, 2007

Vehicle Designer

dsm3383 wrote:
If your going turbo and considering keeping your nitrous what are your plans on internal work cause those two create ALOT of power and our stock internals will wilt and be very afraid of it.



im thinkin of changin the pistons to 8.0 compression ratio and changing rods but that will be later on the road. first im gonna boost only 8lbs than i will think about spray.


[#] May 23, 2007 03:30pm
tC_by_trd

Reg'd: Mar 08, 2007

Vehicle Designer

oh and since the tc has an aluminum block and head watch your temperatures when ever you spray cause aluminum is weaker than cast iron


[#] May 23, 2007 03:31pm
dsm3383


Reg'd: Mar 14, 2007

Scion Guru

Yea, cause like what Web said.....you will need an engine overhaul.


Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.

-Ben Franklin
[#] May 23, 2007 03:31pm
tC_by_trd

Reg'd: Mar 08, 2007

Vehicle Designer

oh yeah but im takin all that slowly one step at a time, money is a major factor here and im short on it with college coming up and stuff.


[#] May 23, 2007 03:34pm
SqMK


Reg'd: Dec 31, 1969

REPOLEVED

hvtopiwala wrote:
u can also use nitrous to spin the turbo


This is what I was getting at. The use of nitrous WITH turbo/superchargers.



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[#] May 23, 2007 03:35pm
hvtopiwala


Reg'd: Jan 03, 2007

Godlike Advisor

yup. if used correctly, it can get reduce/get rid of the turbo lag

[#] May 23, 2007 03:37pm
tC_by_trd

Reg'd: Mar 08, 2007

Vehicle Designer

oh yeah nitrous gets rid of turbo lag like i said. but it can also get the turbo to reach a point to where it looses efficiency faster. for example a small turbo can only boost about 14lbs well the nitrous will cause it to spin so fast that it will bring down the efficiency down to like 12lbs but it will make up for it since the nitrous also makes the car revv faster, thats what happend to my brother car when he stared sprayin in his car


[#] May 23, 2007 03:37pm
tC_by_trd

Reg'd: Mar 08, 2007

Vehicle Designer

oh and jus a rule of thumb dont ever spray more than 20shot per cylinder, so for the tc the maximun would be an 80 shot, i want to try a 100 shot but im scared of what would happen so i stick with my 75 and spray all i want lol


[#] May 23, 2007 03:40pm
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